roguetrick,

They shouldn't blame the AI for this. This was obviously the humans not recreating the AI's artistic vision.

"Audience members engage with interactive flowers, offering compliments, to which the flowers respond with pre-recorded, whimsical thank-yous," the script reads.

BolexForSoup, (edited )
BolexForSoup avatar

I think there's a bit more nuance to be explored here than "it's AI's fault or it isn't AI's fault." Incidents like this show us exactly how AI will be used by many people: As a lazy hammer to solve all perceived nails with no oversight, training, broader considerations, etc.

It's like guns. Whether you are a big 2A advocate or not, most of us agree we need to think about how guns are used and for what purpose. It's an ongoing discussion socially, politically, legally, etc. Rip away the discussion and...well, I think we all agree it's not good for anyone.

Many AI evangelists have a "no debate allowed" problem. They quickly rush to the defense of AI in any and all situations and do their damnedest to vindicate the tool by demanding no one talk about it. This is not healthy or productive for our society as we absolutely must grapple with these questions and factor in how people use them. If we can't talk about it, we can't talk about the people doing the things we don't want to happen.

Acknowledging the new problems or new ways AI complicates or expands old problems is not the same as blaming AI. We can blame the users. But we have to all agree that this is an ongoing discussion that will likely never end, and jumping in with "it is wrong to say AI is relevant here" is not productive.

edit: meant for this to be a top level comment not a response to you, my bad.

roguetrick,

Doesn't matter, takes hours for kbin comments to federate anyway for some reason lately. Nothing we've said has federated, lol.

Chozo,
Chozo avatar

I like to imagine that this whole event was the result of the first truly rogue AI that generated its own plans for an event, sent out the necessary emails to hire the people to put it together, and everything in secret under its creator's nose.

It probably isn't that, though. Because even AI wouldn't fuck up this badly.

veeesix,
@veeesix@lemmy.ca avatar

Connell wasn’t the only actor surprised to find that props promised by the script didn’t actually exist.

So there was never a dress rehearsal and the performance was a cold read? AI may be to blame for the bad script, but there many other points of failure happening here.

captainlezbian,

Is ai even to blame for the bad script? Because if a human being wrote it with the same effort and care applied to every aspect of this it’d still be terrible.

I’m not even saying ai can write as well as a person at the half ass level, but this isn’t even there

Rolando,

Apparently they were given the script only a day before. And on the day of, they were told to just let people walk through, and improvise. Source: dailymail.co.uk/…/Embarrassed-Oompa-Loompas-actre…

veeesix,
@veeesix@lemmy.ca avatar

What a shame. The set pieces look great, but obviously look out of place on a concrete floor. I feel bad for all the actors involved.

ripcord,
@ripcord@lemmy.world avatar

Which srt pieces look great? All the ones I’ve seen so far look like shit.

Or, well, neighborhood Halloween party-level at best.

ptz,
@ptz@dubvee.org avatar

I look forward to more AI failures and flops and hope the public and financial backlash is intense for each every one of them. You cannot automate human creativity, and until the powers that be feel that in their wallets, we’re going to be getting more and more of this inane drivel while actual, talented writers lose job opportunities.

The company has since promised to refund customers, but whether they’ll all actually get their money back remains to be seen.

I’d be demanding it in full.

pipows,
@pipows@lemmy.today avatar

You cannot automate human creativity

Yet

Martineski,
@Martineski@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

You didn’t even say if you are for or againt it and just stated the truth and people downvoted you for that. Lmao

fluxion,

They didn’t even proof read the promotional flyers to make sure they made sense. It’s an absolutely absurd level of laziness.

phillaholic,

You’re describing AI. We are in the get rich quick period of AI usage.

FaceDeer,
FaceDeer avatar

No, we're describing a human endeavour. If the promotional flyers had been made by outsourcing it to Fiverr and they came back wonky it would have been the same basic problem. They outsourced this and then ether didn't have the resources or interest in checking the work that came back.

Ledivin,

This was clearly a scam from the start. AI art is a tool, just like a paintbrush - if you don’t know what you’re doing (or if you just dont give a fuck, like this event), the outcome will understandably be shit.

sheepishly,
sheepishly avatar

Exactly. Whatever happened to, blame the artist not the tools?

The_Vampire,

Yeah, this is just people misapplying the AI tools we are given. They’re not close to General AI, you certainly can’t expect them to do all the work for you yet.

pete_the_cat,

It’s gonna be the new Dot Com bubble. Sure, we’ll have to deal with this nonsense for another year or two, but once it gets to the point of insanity/critical mass hopefully that’s when people stop throwing AI at everything.

I see ads all around my city for the new Galaxy S24, it looks the exact same as my S23, and probably has the same hardware, mostly, but their new selling point is that it comes with AI. That’s literally the only thing on the billboard.

deweydecibel, (edited )

Problem is, even when we get over this shit and hire the “creatives” back, they won’t be getting the same wages.

And a lot of the money that could go to the artists is going to go to these silicone valley pricks, too. Never think for a second the people making AI like this don’t appreciate what they’re doing. This shit is custom built to steal the livelihood from artists and put it directly into their own pockets.

VirtualOdour,

You’re coming from a very selfish perspective, it’s just capitalism rotting your brain.

Ai is being designed to help solve problems that affect billions of people, it’s already able to do amazing things that greatly improve people’s lives in many ways. You’re ignoring all of that and discounting it simply because you’re only worried about your own selfish interests, and you’re ignoring the benefit it could have on your life simply because you fear change.

Being able to get explanations of things in your own language and ask questions is huge for people from underdeveloped regions of the world, especially for subjects like coding where documentation is always terse, technical, and always in English. Though I’ve already used it myself to help understand a German project, also projects written in coding languages I haven’t studied - and wow is it useful for languages I do know well, it’s increased my productivity hugely on my open source project. being able to do things like drop in a choice block and say ‘put these elements in a sizer’ saves so much time, dropping a line in and saying ‘what are the options for formating this?’ and it gives me direct and comprehensive answers - that could have been half an hour in the documentation.

Of course I make open source software to help give people the tools they need to live better lives, for me the more I can create the more tools I and everyone have to improve our lives - I’m trying to move towards a better world where people don’t need to beg corporations for scraps by performing doggie tricks for them, you want to keep rolling over and eagerly giving you creativity to advertising agencies and corporate owned movie studios so they can sell more shit to the masses. Stop figuring to protect capitalism it doesn’t give a shit about you.

riskable,
@riskable@programming.dev avatar

This wasn’t a failure of AI. It was just a low-effort charade. If you want to put in the least amount of effort possible in such things, AI is there for you.

If they had put in any effort whatsoever they would’ve taken the first “draft” BS generated by the AI, made some minimal changes, then fed it back into the AI for further improvement.

Chat AIs are just that: Chat. You’re supposed to go back and forth in conversation with the AI in order to get a good result. It appears the organizers of this event put together some terrible prompts and didn’t even bother to spend an extra ten minutes refining things.

AI is a tool like any other. This pathetic event is a textbook case of how AI can’t replace humans entirely (not yet, anyway). You still gotta put in some effort.

Wahots,
@Wahots@pawb.social avatar

Meth lab oompa loompa is my favorite meme of the year so far. It juxtaposed so well to the wonder and silliness of the movies, lmao.

Garyx23x,

The best part about this event was the new Wonka lore of The Unknown, an evil chocolate maker who lives in the walls

Agent641, (edited )

Therqpist: “The evil chocolate maker in the walls isn’t real, he can’t hurt you!”

Me: gestures to this article

PeterPoopshit, (edited )

Imagine hosting an event so lame that it makes international news solely because of how incredibly lame it was. Just damn.

set_secret,

this isn’t so much a failure of AI generated anything. it’s a failure by the organisers to have the budget needed to do it. this was 100% human fuck up. So weird the article tries to spin it that it’s somehow an AI fail.

cmhe, (edited )

The AI part is what makes this fuck up special and international news.

We are used to human fuck ups, but a in person event where the organizers where so lazy that they used AI to create the content and that it sucked is something novel.

AI generated pictures, blogs and books are old news, generated in person events is new.

negativeyoda,

The head guy self published something like a dozen AI generated books that he’s selling on Amazon too

Zozano,

So the script called for some of the Wonka’s to use vacuums, but they didn’t have vacuums, so they had to improvise.

But they managed to pull out a chemistry set.

What the fuck is happening.

ArmokGoB,

This whole event reads more like an artist trying to showcase the dangers of machine learning models. It’s honestly hilarious to see how people just fell for some pretty pictures that were clearly generated with AI and ended up at an oompa loompa meth lab.

lolcatnip,

People going in expecting a fun adventure with Willy Wonka and having a horrible time because it was created by an asshole trying to teach them a lesson…sounds like the plot of Charlie and the Chocolate Factory!

MrsDoyle,

This feels like an episode of The Apprentice. Lord Sugar (appropriate!): “Willy Wonka? More like Willy Wanker.” Cut to sweaty Project Manager about to be fired.

ElderWendigo,

More like…

“It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia”

“Charlie Kelly and the Chocolate Factory”

tegs_terry,

Dennis uses it to play a sexy Wonka, Dee gets attacked for use of ‘orange face’, Mac has a nightmare experience in the haunted tunnel, and Charlie and Frank accidentally end up cooking meth for kids.

stringere,

This isn’t an episode already?

the_post_of_tom_joad,

I think i read this story when it was called huckleberry finn.

It was that book, right? Where the con man sold tickets to a “ribald show” which ended up just being one dude running around naked?

sarcasticsunrise,
@sarcasticsunrise@lemmy.world avatar

Moist Critikal’s video on this was a banger

ripcord,
@ripcord@lemmy.world avatar

Searched for it on YouTube, but there’s so many remixes and reaction videos and reposts and other bullshit that I honestly am not sure I found the right one.

Is this it?

youtu.be/BM6y-5t862E

yukiat, (edited )
@yukiat@lemmy.world avatar

Yup, that’s the correct video.

TubeTalkerX,

Is Blaming-the-AI killing off the Blaming-the-Intern industry???

J12,

I’m sure little weasel Billy Coull is hiding out until things cool off then he’ll be back out fucking over people again. Hopefully the workers run scumbag Billy out of town if they’re not paid.

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