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FuckyWucky, in Bo Burnham: How The World Works

i kinda miss 2021, even with all the death.

gitgud,
@gitgud@lemmy.ml avatar

It was kinda fun to watch corpos shit themselves, even briefly. Unfortunately this triggered their narcissistic rage which has been on an endless tear since, but for a brief moment in time the thing they cared about was hurt: their money.

Alsephina, in Orientalism: Desert Level Music vs Actual Middle-Eastern Music

Good fucking video

From the comments:

So there is such a thing as Occidentalism but it’s not the yin to the yang of Orientalism as some may think. Most often, it takes the form of irrational hostility towards the West. Things like rejecting well researched truths presented by Western academia solely on the basis that it’s Western. I’ve been highly critical of this in my videos, as it obfuscates “anti-colonialism,” with anti-Western bigotry in order to get away with it. Occidentalism as a stereotypical view of the West, however, doesn’t really exist as a perfectly symettrical counterpart to Orientalism.

The reason why it’s mostly a one way street, and non-Westerners are generally better at representing the West than the other way around is because the West is currently the hegemon of this planet, in terms of cultural soft power. Therefore everyone around the world is intimately familiar with the generalities of Western culture because everyone is exposed to it.

The average Iranian who lived in Tehran all their life can tell a British accent is distinct from Scottish, and we do associate Received Pronunciation British with “posh.” They do know the organ is a church instrument. Typical Western associations are well known to the average Iranian in Tehran.

At the beginning of the video, my uncle and I mention Mozart and Ketèlbey, Western Classical composers, and the musical form of “alla turcas,” and “Baroque music”. That’s because every musician in the world knows Western music and its genres, styles, composers, etc. But it may take you months to find a single Classical Western musician who knows the names of Sheydā, Dimitrie Cantemir, or who know what the terms “peşrev” or “kalofonía” mean, and what musical forms they refer to.

All musicians around the world can play Western music. We all do chords, harmony, play the piano and guitar; we all know and are familiar with Western music theory. Only a tiny fraction of Western musicians learn any music theory outside of their own. There’s a reason why Western musicians are the only ones who call their form of ethnic music “Music Theory,” whilst everywhere else, even between them, people preface their music theory with the cultural specifier like “Iranian music theory,” “Japanese music theory,” etc. I’m aware that this presents a rather unflattering picture of the West, but please understand that this is not a consequence of us non-Westerners being oh so wiser. Not trying to portray Westerners as inherently bad or evil. If we were the current cultural hegemons of the planet, we’d be just like that. In 500 years, if China or Brazil become the next superpower, they’ll be the ones generally ignorant about other cultures whilst everyone else knows about them. Average Westerners aren’t ignorant by default, they simply naturally embody the traits of a region with hegemonic global cultural influence, and we non-Westerners are simply luckier than them because unlike them, we all grow up listening to both our music, and Western music.

TLDR: everyone in the world knows that Madonna exists. Most Westerners have no idea who Fairuz or Shajarian are. That’s just how it is due to the current geopolitical context. But that’s just this context. In 500 years, if Central Asia becomes the next cultural hegemon, they’ll be the exact same.

daydrinkingchickadee, in THE HAGUE – The International Court of Justice (ICJ) holds public hearings in the case South Africa v. Israel - Oral argument of South Africa
z3rOR0ne, in Why You'll Never Achieve The American Dream

Well dang! This guy makes my neck tired from all the nodding in agreement. Thanks!

Alsephina, (edited ) in Why You'll Never Achieve The American Dream
Donjuanme, in MACKLEMORE - HIND'S HALL

Vote in November.

You think Trump will treat Gaza better?

Jaderick,

The only line I didn’t like

Alsephina,

As always, liberals’ “support” for national liberation movements only extends to words, if even that.

They’ll gladly support genocide in practice while capitalism gradually decays into fascism, as they’ve let happen in Europe in the past.

https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/b371c010-8466-4968-a2d2-bad099559095.png

“The white liberal differs from the white conservative only in one way: the liberal is more deceitful than the conservative.”

  • Malcolm X
Jaderick,

Nah you’re assuming a lot of garbage because you’re dumb. I’m stuck in a first past the post system given a choice between actual trash or a biohazardous fascist dumpster fire. If you don’t vote, you’re more likely giving power to the biohazardous dumpster again and we all saw how that worked out. You’re an idiot if you think not voting absolves you from the consequences of the next person in power.

Donjuanme,

Same here, sounds like a lot of these people are disenfranchised, or are paid to dissuade voters from one particular side, or they’re useful idiots.

I live in a first past the post system, it’s not going to change for the better from the top down, I petition for ranked choice voting on the local level, if I want to continue to be able to vote in the future (and not in a Russian sense of “being able to vote”) I’m voting for Biden.

Don’t let the astroturfing here dissuade you.

Jaderick,

For sure, I know accelerationists are the dumbest people on the left who have never picked up a book in their life. I’m getting downvoted in series of 7 votes which seems like a strange number to AstroTurf lmao.

Maggoty,

It’s not acceleration if it’s already here.

Jaderick,

What is “it”? All the nebulous statements with no plan lmao. They haven’t broken people enough to revolt yet. I’d have expected Russians to revolt again considering the worse oligarchical state over there, but the oligarchs are still in power. The bullies still have the better organization skills.

I hope y’all are at least part of a union otherwise you’re just worthless words lmao.

Scorpius, (edited )

Nah you’re just a dumbass for thinking that voting for either of the genocidal fascists and endorsing the capitalist system keeping them in power “absolves” you of anything (whatever that means).

Political power in a capitalist state comes from organizing, not from writing the name of some maniac on a piece of paper

null,

Come November, either Trump or Biden will be elected into office, whether you like it or not.

If your goal is to organize, one of those outcomes will make that harder to do than the other.

Maggoty,

Really? Are we watching the same news? The Democrats are pulling the same exact bullshit trump did with protestors.

Jaderick,

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  • Maggoty,

    Oh no! Now the enlightened centrists are calling me Russian! Get in line behind the 2A guys calling me communist.

    null,

    Which is, of course, the one and only metric to measure.

    Maggoty,

    You specifically mentioned organizing. So I specifically responded.

    null,

    Pro-Palestine protests, of course, being the only form of organization.

    Maggoty,

    It doesn’t take more than once to show an intolerance. They only let protestors they agree with organize peacefully.

    null,

    And naturally, with non-peaceful protest being the only form of organization, since both potential administrations will treat that issue equally, the logical option is to hand it to the one who will also do plenty more terrible things on top of it.

    Maggoty, (edited )

    The logical option is a vote of no confidence. But we don’t have that in the US. We have Kings for 4 years so we have to respond to them the way people have historically.

    null,

    If we’re subbing in things to replace reality, you can do a lot better than that.

    Doesn’t really address the issue at hand, though.

    Maggoty,

    I think it very much does.

    null,

    I’m not surprised you think sharing a mediocre fantasy addresses the issue at hand.

    Just disappointed.

    Maggoty,

    Oh no. Anyways…

    Donjuanme,

    You’re accusing them of thinking voting gives absolution? You’re the ignorant one here, and you deserve to be ground under the boots of fascism.

    PowerCrazy,

    Looks like a liberal was scratched.

    null,

    .ml accounts and cutting off their nose to spite their face. Name a more iconic duo.

    Jaderick,

    Do something about it lmao. I want to hear about you on the news organizing your way to power before the election. Name drop Jaderick in your speeches, I would love to see it and you could prove me wrong.

    In the mean time you’re just trash sitting there doing nothing lol.

    theareciboincident,

    You MAGAts keep screaming about how if we don’t vote blue, fascism will gain even more power.

    What exactly do you think is happening right now under Biden?

    It’s incredibly telling of the liberal brain rot that you can listen to this entire song and your only argument is “but orange man bad”.

    So, to quote the warrior-poet: “And fuck no, I’m not votin’ for you in the fall”

    null,

    What exactly do you think is happening right now under Biden?

    A slower slide into fascism than would happen under Trump. How was that not clear?

    Jaderick,

    Lmao calling me MAGA. Dude can’t even read a post history, I’m surprised you can format a post.

    So what are you then, just nihilist internet trash? Explain how not voting is going to make Palestinian lives better. While you’re at it, explain how a Trump presidency would be better for fighting fascism. Explain how not participating in the system of power is somehow going to give you what you want, whatever that may be? You just want to watch the world burn? Start with your own house.

    chuckleslord,

    Ironically showing your own privilege. Those who are in imminent danger from things getting worse will vote against another Trump term, no matter who. Biden and the status quo fucking suck, but they can get so much worse.

    Maggoty,

    They’re already in danger. Democrats aren’t stopping local governments from attacking them.

    chuckleslord,

    Take a minute, read my comment again. I said things getting worse. Not bad, cause they’re bad. Worse.

    Cool, have a nice day.

    Donjuanme,

    Funny how overnight (Russian working hours) our comments went from +20 and +10 to into the negatives, isn’t it?

    Linkerbaan,
    @Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

    It’s definitely not the Genocide Biden is supporting. It’s the Russians making it all up!

    Jaderick,

    So are you going to explain how Trump is better for Palestine? Better yet, you got a plan to organize a better system of government before November?

    Linkerbaan,
    @Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

    Lib tankies bringing up Trump to excuse for Genocide lmao.

    null,

    Both-sidesers sidestepping that second question.

    null,

    I think you’re right, its not Russians or bots. There really just that many myopic, real people on .ml

    PowerCrazy,

    They are called liberals.

    null,

    Interesting take – walk me through the reasoning there.

    PowerCrazy,

    Liberals can’t see beyond the next election (myopic). They also can’t see the results of 30 years of “voting blue no matter who,” so they lack the ability to learn.
    Meanwhile leftists have been saying since Marx that Capitalism is the problem, and voting for your favorite color of Capitalism isn’t beneficial to anyone but the Capitalist system. So yes there are that many myopic people, like yourself, who will not only vote for blue capitalism over literally any other action, but they will also come to explicitly leftists spaces and browbeat others to do the same.

    null, (edited )

    So, to be clear:

    • Donjuanme suggested that the reason they and Jaderick were downvoted was because of Russian intervention
    • Linkerbaan mocked that suggestion
    • I proposed that it wasn’t Russians or bots, merely myopic .ml users (such as yourself) who did the downvoting
    • You’ve come along and suggested that those .ml users who did that downvoting are myopic liberals invading leftist spaces

    Is that really what you think of yourself?

    PowerCrazy,

    Whenever I see a person blaming Russian’s and Bots for going against their narrative, I know I’ve found a liberal. When someone else entertaining the option and suggesting the people downvoting the liberal are in the wrong, well it looks like I found two liberals.

    null, (edited )

    Well, I certainly never accused you of having the intelligence required to follow a thread that’s a whole 5 tiers deep. So that checks out.

    If you want to accuse yourself of being a myopic liberal, you go right ahead, champ!

    Maggoty,

    We can see the votes. You don’t have 10 or 20 upvotes on any comment in here. Stop lying.

    Donjuanme,

    You can see the vote history? Last night I’m pretty sure I was at 20 and the first response was at 10… But maybe it was a different thread? Pretty sure it was this one…

    Maggoty,

    Yes. It simply shows The up and down votes separately. Unless people changed their vote it was never that high.

    Alsephina, (edited )

    Vocal participation in a genocidal system is endorsement of it. You can’t tell people to vote for one of the parties of Capital one year and then suddenly tell people that actually it needs to be overthrown and think that’s going to happen 5 years later.

    At some point you have to commit to it being “broken” (actually working as intended of course) and organize based entirely on the fact that it is and can not be supported in any way whatsoever. We’re long past that point with the “lesser evil” party currently committing genocide.

    Successful revolutions in the past have used elections primarily as a way to show the size of the movement, never by endorsing a party of Capital.

    Organize. Endorsing a genocidal party won’t stop them from committing genocide.

    null,

    So you’re okay with a Trump presidency.

    Maggoty,

    Stop gaslighting people. They said it’s time to march and protest and you still accuse them as if they’re participating in the system. We want both of them out. This is how movements for change start.

    null,

    We want both of them out.

    Reality check: one of them is going to be elected president in November. Your wants will not change that.

    crusa187,

    I won’t accept that, and will march and protest loudly to try to stop it.

    What are you gonna do, sick the cops on me to protect the establishment bastards?

    null,

    What are you gonna do

    Continue to shame you for ignoring reality and advocating for Worse to spite Bad.

    crusa187,

    Classic lib take - attack the voters, because the current admin’s terrible policies are clearly their fault.

    Repugs and Dems aren’t the only candidates on the ballot, and thankfully I can vote for someone who has policy positions much more aligned with my interests. Perhaps you can too, think about it. Or vote for more genocide, it’s your choice.

    null,

    Repugs and Dems aren’t the only candidates on the ballot

    They are the only candidates that will win under FPTP

    thankfully I can vote for someone who has policy positions much more aligned with my interests

    Yup, you can virtue signal all you like. That’s freedom, baby!

    Or vote for more genocide, it’s your choice.

    Nah, I’ll stick to advocating against genocide++

    rothaine,

    I’ve seen a lot of your comments around, preaching the truth about FPTP, and they are often downvoted into the negatives. But you persist.

    I just want to commend you and say that you have more patience than I do. Keep up the good work.

    null,

    Hey, thanks!

    Maggoty,

    Not with that attitude it won’t.

    null,

    Sure. Or with any attitude.

    Donjuanme,

    Yup, this commerad (the one you’re responding to) is 100% okay with fascism it seems.

    Better to allow the group that locks up protestors, doesn’t convict anti fascist murderers, kills minorities, and actively surpresses the ability to vote, than vote for “the lesser of 2 evils”. I’m not saying they’re Russian, or Republican, but they’re saying the same things as those groups.

    TheEgoBot,

    Currently the Biden administration is locking up protesters, not convicting FASCIST murderers, killing minorities, and suppressing the ability to vote, all right now. If you want to continue with the liberal policy of pretending everything’s okay go ahead, but don’t give us shit for trying to do something about it, sit down and shut up King.

    Taleya, in The Internet is starting to Break - Here's Why.

    That entire spiel on the summary told me more than the video ever would. It’s almost art

    ShimmeringKoi, (edited ) in Macklemore - "Hind's Hall" (Video | 2024)
    @ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net avatar
    z3rOR0ne,

    Roflmao. 🤣

    davel, in Is George Soros Behind Everything You Don't Like? – SOME MORE NEWS
    @davel@lemmy.ml avatar

    Republicans will never blame capitalists or capitalism as such. Even welfare state liberals like Sanders won’t blame capitalism as such, they’ll blame https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It's_OK_to_Be_Angry_About_Capitalism.

    Muffi, (edited )

    Funny thing is, Republicans are actually blaming capitalism, they just call it ‘the globalists’ because they are like children, and need evil to be personified for them to comprehend it.

    davel,
    @davel@lemmy.ml avatar

    The far right is not blaming capitalism, it is distracting people from capitalism, giving them a false consciousness to keep them from developing class consciousness. They know exactly what they’re doing by blaming the (((globalists))): it’s what fascists have been doing for the last century. They’re selling a false revolution that would only give the capitalist class even more power by stripping away the trappings of bourgeois democracy.

    clb92, in Smoking is Awesome

    I feel like the people who downvoted this only read the title without actually watching. This video is very much NOT pro-smoking.

    paraphrand, (edited )

    The clickbait is strong on this one.

    Edit: I just finished watching the main part. I think they could have gone further. I assume some people will be curious about Nicotine gum/lozenges after this video. And wonder if it’s an ideal alternative.

    Otherwise, the way they show all the downsides is really effective IMO.

    Zagorath,
    @Zagorath@aussie.zone avatar

    I downvoted because it’s Kurzgesagt and I lost all respect for Kurzgesagt after the whole Addiction and Refugee videos debacle.

    toastal,

    Funded by Gates makes me leery

    sweetmartabak,

    Could you kindly point me to some more info on this?

    My kids love Kurzgesagt and I generally find the content very informative.

    Zagorath,
    @Zagorath@aussie.zone avatar

    Sure. There’s a lot to it, so I’ll copy/paste (with some minor modifications) an explanation from elsewhere.

    It started when a YouTuber whose channel is called Coffee Break reached out to Philip of Kurzgesagt as part of a video he was doing into the flaws of popular science communication. Specifically, about some significant errors in K’s video on Addiction. Instead of agreeing to collaborate, or even giving a simple “not interested, sorry”, K took an instant accusatory tone, claiming CB must have been making a “gotcha” piece. CB and K agreed that they would talk more about the matter to try and assuage K’s concerns, but K kept stalling while working on a retraction video, at which time K took down the video that was the impetus for this discussion (shortly after, as one of those aforementioned stalling efforts, having said “I never could bring myself to take it down”, claiming it would be “cruel and unnecessary” to do so—funny, considering in his AMA attempting to spin the story, he said “I was really stressed out about the addiction and the refugee video for years. Being finally open about my mistakes and deleting them felt like weight leaving my body.”). The Refugee video was also taken down along with the Addiction one that CB was interested in.

    K claims to be interested in science communication. But here, he decided to make the selfish decision to do what he thought would protect his own personal brand through duplicitous means. He got ahead of the story that falsely assumed was coming, and put up a pre-emptive response to that. Now, CB isn’t entirely blameless. In response to the above, CB put out a rather hot-headed reaction to the whole incident. He didn’t follow up with K to try to understand what had happened; he lashed out in anger at K’s self-righteous arse-covering video.

    And then CB started getting harassed. K called out CB, and many of K’s friends (other very large, powerful YouTubers such as CGP Grey and Philip de Franco) made very public statements to their audiences attacking CB. It ended up forcing CB into taking down his video, deleting a whole heap of tweets explaining what happened, and putting out an apology. Perhaps it was an apology that CB should have indeed made, but the need for an apology from K was much, much greater. And one never came. K used his larger platform to spin the narrative so that his large audience, and now also the general public who becomes aware of this, almost all take his side.

    Incidentally, here’s the video that CB was working on at the time. Hari, the scientist discussed in the video whom K worked with on his video discussed earlier, communicated very well with CB on it.


    And as a separate thing that came out a while after this, Both Kurzgesagt and CGP Grey were early members of Nebula. Today, Nebula is fairly well-known as a creator-owned streaming service. Creators literally have an ownership stake in the business, and are paid out a slice based on their viewership (I don’t think the exact formula is public, but presumably some function including number of views, view hours, etc.).

    But early on, when it was still taking the shape we know it in today, Grey and Kurzgesagt were members with an ownership stake. They left it a long time ago citing “creative differences” (or some vague nonsense like that). From little pieces that have come out on the rare occasions that existing Nebula creators have said something about it, apparently those two were less interested in the vision of Nebula as a place where multiple creators support each other in growing their collective revenue; instead they wanted to take more of a parasitic approach where they could profit off of the backs of other, smaller creators. Because the then-co-owners weren’t interested in that, Grey and Kurzgesagt ended up leaving.

    sweetmartabak,

    Bummer. Thanks for sharing.

    Zagorath, (edited )
    @Zagorath@aussie.zone avatar

    Yeah it sucks. Though for what it’s worth, I’m definitely not suggesting other people should stop watching him. It would be hypocritical of me to do so.

    I don’t watch Kurzgesagt, but then I never did much. I watched a video of theirs here and there but never got really into it. But I was a huge fan of CGP Grey. The above was only a minor part of it, but some of Grey’s other actions have upset me to the point I can’t say I really like the guy any more. But I still watch his videos…when he actually puts one out. They’re high production value and usually on interesting subjects.

    ProfessorScience, in Macklemore - "Hind's Hall" (Video | 2024)

    Not a fan of the bit about not voting for Biden. Not that Biden shouldn’t be doing better for Palestine, but not voting or voting for Trump are stupid options. I thought that was a distraction from an otherwise strong message.

    daydrinkingchickadee,

    UK rapper Lowkey came out with this 14 years ago, maybe you’ll like it better

    Long Live Palestine Part I - Lowkey

    PowerCrazy, in MACKLEMORE - HIND'S HALL

    That was way better then I expected it would be. Congrats Macklemore.

    stembolts, in How AI tells Israel who to bomb
    Snapz, in Is The US Headed Towards Fascism?

    Before jumping into a new (to me) YouTube creator’s videos, I need a few people to please describe them and any b.s. in their presentation of information one should be aware of when watching their videos?

    Shyfer,

    This guy’s videos are usually pretty good. They got a quick pace, good editing, and explain things really well. They are a socialist so they have a bias in that way, but they’d be the first to admit it and to say that every creator has a bias of some sort or another.

    Snapz,

    Appreciate it! Anyone else agree or disagree with the take?

    BeMoreCareful, (edited )

    I’d agree, I’m apparently subscribed lol. I only subscribe after seeing multiple videos that I like.

    Second Thought is the channel name (for the people who were searching for it in the comments like I was)

    some_guy, in Is The US Headed Towards Fascism?

    Yes.

    SpaceNoodle,

    No. If I’m already at home, I’m not headed towards home.

    some_guy,

    I’d argue that we’re only fash-curious right now. The real fascism will be far worse.

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