Haitians Don’t Need More “Dumbasses” From the US State Department Weighing In on the Crisis

In 2021, envoy Foote started to work with this coalition, which was called the Montana Accord and eventually included some 650 organizations and individuals—labor unions, community organizations, Catholic and Protestant churches, women’s groups, chambers of commerce, and a range of political groups. The State Department ignored Foote’s efforts. His blistering resignation letter, made public in September that year, warned US policymakers: “I do not believe that Haiti can enjoy stability until her citizens have the dignity of truly choosing their own leaders fairly and acceptably.”

Rapidcreek,

Haitians wanted Doc and Baby Doc. What they always get is chaos.

DigitalTraveler42,

Barbecue is the closest they’ve been to Papa Doc’s reign, he supposedly believes in similar stuff, has similar narcissistic traits, and is absolutely as corrupt as they were, so if that’s what they want that’s kinda what they’re getting.

girlfreddy,
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They want Western nations to quit fucking them around and telling them what to do.

DigitalTraveler42,

Lol, you are pretty naive if you think it’s that at all.

Barbecue is literally named for cooking and eating his enemies, do you actually think any respectable country wants to play nice with that kind of guy? Also the guy is completely out to gain power, that’s it, and if the US was willing to deal with him in any positive way he would be singing their praises, because again, it’s not about revolution, this guy is a gangster, he just wants power and control, and legitimacy from the US would mean he’s going to win.

Also the US has been largely hands off with Haiti for the last twenty years, the US/Haiti relationship is almost as complicated as Israel and Palestine, especially when Haitians make up such a large demographic in the US. Ever since Obama’s administration and the Red Cross scandal US policy towards Haiti has mostly been hands off, which Trump’s administration took drastically further, since Trump’s foreign policy is extremely isolationist, plus all of Trump’s racist and classist bullshit.

The only Americans causing problems down there rn are criminal gun runners who are working with the criminal element of Haiti, namely Barbecue’s people, to take over the country, illegally and absolutely not democratic. Those criminal Americans should be arrested and tried ASAP.

girlfreddy,
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Fake whine some more about how badly America is being treated.

DigitalTraveler42,

I don’t see anywhere where I whined about anything, but nice to see that you get triggered over anybody not having a completely delusional anti-US take.

I’m just calling it how I see it, if your bitch ass thinks I’m whining maybe you should bone up on your f’n reading comprehension skills.

sailingbythelee,

Totally agree. Let Haitians figure it out on their own with zero involvement from the West or any Western-funded entities. I’m sure Haiti will be fine just as soon as we back out.

wintermute_oregon,

That’s the best way for America to deal with it. We just need to stay out of it. Leave our troops and tax dollars out of it.

catloaf,

Chaos is bad, yes, but I think there are better options than autocracy. I don’t know much about Haiti, but I doubt the people wanted the Duvaliers’ human rights violations. Papa Doc was elected in 1957, and Haiti didn’t have anything close to a real election until at least 1988.

Rapidcreek,

Chaos is not a better option when others have to stabilize the country. I think UN peacekeepers have been there 4 times. The US has had to intercede at least that many.

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