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Why Ukraine Should Keep Striking Russian Oil Refineries (www.foreignaffairs.com)

Washington’s criticism is misplaced: attacks on oil refineries will not have the effect on global energy markets that U.S. officials fear. These s​trikes reduce Russia’s ability to turn its oil into usable products; they do not affect the volume of oil it can extract or export. In fact, with less domestic refining...

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Blowing up oil refineries may be a net benefit anywhere on earth but certainly in Russia it is.

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Oh damn I did not know about this! Does rinsing make a significant difference in safety? Doesn’t seem to be super common or well-researched. I wonder what the level of risk is with foraging.

To be honest I’ve been eating unwashed wild berries my whole life so hopefully not too risky haha.

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Yeah those aren’t real strawberries, it’s a case of biomimicry! Luckily we don’t have a fake ones here. If you look carefully they are not too hard to tell apart though.

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I actually don’t know, I just know they are strawberries and tasty.

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Yeah in certain areas the fake ones are a common lawn weed, way more common than true strawberries. But as far as I know, true strawberries are always delicious!

How do people actually dumpster dive to get free food? Are there any other cheap/free ways like this to get food?

My local food bank can only provide 8 packages with referrals every time before you run out, and I have, but my situation hasn’t improved financially due to various set backs and I’m struggling to feed myself. I’ve heard that supermarkets throw out massive amounts, but have never been in a position where dumpster diving...

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I’ve rarely done it myself but my roommate did often and she got lots of things. Fancier grocery stores are usually the best. Depending on the neighborhood they can be locked though. Wealthier areas will have fewer people scrounging so more likely to be unlocked.

If you are a novice, start with non-perishable goods. Perishable goods can sometimes be fine too but requires more judgement.

That said, I have to believe that there must be more services available to you somewhere. Is there some office in your local government that can provide advice?

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You realize these are all incorrect right?

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No, stay away unless you subscribe to Marxist-Leninist ideology. Alternative viewpoints (so the vast majority of people) will be strongly criticized at best and banned at worst.

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Instant economic and infrastructure collapse as 50% of human labor is now missing.

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Yeah most people would survive but the electricity grid would probably go down, roads and airports would be shut down due to a instantaneous huge number of crashes, fires started might not be able to be put out due to lack of firefighters and no way to transport their equipment, etc. So not quite apocalyptic but probably comparable to a natural disaster or war across the entire earth.

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Taxes are one method for doing this. Though it has to be a high enough tax.

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Normally don’t think there’s much of opinion pieces but this was a good one. Well, researched, covering an important issue that most people have relatively low understanding of. Concrete policy proposals to address it. Thanks for sharing!

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That’s a toad!

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Yup and they aren’t as aquatic as frogs are so it’s good you pulled it out!

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If you’re looking for credible conservatives who actually confront the shortcomings of capitalism, I can’t think of any. But these early writings were pretty well-thought out and are foundational to later ideas, so I think they’re worth reading.

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Oh that makes sense.

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I’m fully committed to lesser evil voting since it’s the only viable electoral strategy. So as long as Biden is better than Trump I would vote for him. I have a hard time understanding why people don’t see that this is the most rational way to vote. If you don’t like it, and I don’t either, then you need to pursue strategies to change it, particularly outside the electoral system. Since these strategies do not conflict with voting I think it’s rational to pursue both actions.

And no I don’t think we need to be toothless. But a lot of people don’t seem to be smart enough to walk the line of threatening to withhold support without actually doing so. I’m not going to go right up to Biden and tell him that’s what I’m doing. He doesn’t know what my strategy is, so it can still be effective.

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Yeah I mean there are lots of possible mediation strategies but my experience is that having a formal process of who should be consulted and how disputes get settled does avoid a lot of conflicts and bad feelings. Of course, this does add complexity, places where hierarchies can creep in, and inefficiencies in solving community problems. So there is probably no one perfect system but we may need to experiment with lots of structures to see which has the best balance of features for each specific circumstance.

Maybe I misunderstood but Andrew seems to be indicating that there isn’t a need for formal groups to manage shared resources, and that such groups will naturally arise and disappear based on common interests. But I think there will naturally be factions with different priorities in terms of how common resources should be utilized, just as there are today. Perhaps as you say with a more developed sense of solidarity these problems will lessen but I have a hard time thinking they will disappear.

I am not sure I can envision how this free association concept would work in practice for these controversial issues, but I certainly am interested to see this principle in action on a small scale to find out.

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I think you have a point and a decentralized system will only stay decentralized if it has practices and norms that actively combat the natural development of hierarchies. This is generally what we see in non-hierarchical forager societies which are generally the most successful examples we know of at putting these principles into practice. But at least historically, these societies have not been as successful at combatting hierarchical violence by outsiders. For this reason I think a larger real world anarchistic society cannot necessarily pursue maximum human freedom without considering economic efficiency, organized self-defense, etc. How to develop such institutions and practices without hierarchy is a largely unsolved question, and it may be necessary to learn by trial and error.

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Would love to see resources on conflict resolution from anarchic societies if anyone has them.

My MIL is a community mediator using nonviolent communication which I highly recommend people read up on if they are interested. It’s interesting and useful stuff.

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So anecdotal? Have you worked in a worker’s coop? It’s hard to see how some workers taking advantage of others would be worse than the owner taking advantage of them but if you have seen it maybe you can explain how.

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Ok, this doesn’t seem to be the overall picture in the economic literature but thanks for sharing your experience. Given that, I can see why you hold those views.

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