Vegoon

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Vegoon, (edited )

Ich würde dich ja fragen ob der Kommentar nötig ist, aber dann läufst du der Gefahr mir eine Quelle, einen Artikel oder vielleicht sogar ein Gesetz zu verlinken. Wäre ja Raubmordrechtsberatung und höchst illegal.

Auf der anderen Seite könnte ich (nur hypothetisch, keine Anzeige bitte!) sagen dass deine Aussage überzogen ist und deine Hände wären gebunden weil du keine Rechtsberatung machen darfst.

Schwierig.

Vegoon,

Don’t mess with animals. This is not a Texas problem, outbreaks have been all over the world and the animal agriculture is the perfect breeding ground. The only question is where will it develop the human to human infection feature. When it happens you can only blame others if your state or country has no animal agriculture as it could happen anywhere.

Vegoon,

And unless everyone is willing to go 100% vegan tomorrow

  • we do it until we get a new pandemic
  • we wait until climate change, 3°C from food production, destroys enough crops that agriculture collapses
  • we eat more of it to die sooner so we don’t have to face the consequences of our actions.

And no, I don’t belive 100% tommorow is the only way to avoid that, that was your wording. But it has to and will change.

Vegoon,

For smaller animals heat suffocation has worked well, takes a few days but no extra work.

Vegoon,

So it would reduce the risk of antibiotic resistant diseases, the risk of the next zoonosis that turns into pandemic, the certainty that climate change will destroy agriculture, the risk of heart diseases and cancer but it will not eliminate the chance of a stomach flue so it is not worth perusing?

Vegoon,

It was already, but not from another mamal. Birds infecting individuals is not the problem, we kill a few millions (58 since 2022 in the states alone) birds to prevent the spread, a few hundred humans get sick, all is well. From mamal to another mamal is the problem, once it goes from human to human its over.

Vegoon, (edited )

Dieser Punkt ist einfach realitätsfern

Genau, und woher hat dieser Fuchs eigentlich das coole T-Shirt? Wollen die uns den Eindruck vermitteln diese Tiere hätten menschliche Eigenschaften (Personifikation) und handeln menschlich (Bildebene)? Als würde die Dramatik der Fabelhandlung auf eine Schlusspointe zielen an die sich meist eine allgemeingültige Moral (Sachebene) anschließt! Damit würden sich solche Fabeln durch die leichte Erkennbarkeit der Lehre unterscheiden von anderen Formen der didaktischen Dichtung wie Gleichnis und Parabel.

Solange ich keine Bezugsquelle für das T-Shirt gezeigt bekomme glaub ich erst mal gar nichts.

Vegoon,

Da schaut nur noch ein bisschen Grün raus 🍑 🥕

Vegoon,

Aber sind Füchse denn überhaupt gezwungene oder nur opportunistische Allesfresser? Ich hab nur gefunden dass sie sich im besonders im Sommer pflanzlich mit Obst und Beeren ernähren, daher ist auch der Fuchsbandwurm bei wilden Beeren eine Gefahr.

Ich schlage nicht vor Füchse zu Veganern zu machen, aber ich glaub nicht dass der vegane Fuchs für Menschen die nicht was finden wollen ein Problem ist. Vielleicht fragen manche Kinder ihre Eltern und die lernen dann dass sich Füchse auch von Pflanzen ernähren, und Fleisch, und Aas. Wer vegane Propaganda finden will findet sie immer.

Sicher ist nur, ich will das T-Shirt.

Vegoon,

Die AfD hat die anderen Parteien in Sachen TikTok abgehängt, wenn nur die dort den Diskurs bestimmen ändert sich das Wahlverhalten natürlich. Sagt man so, wirkliche Einblicken hab ich nicht.

Backdoor found in widely used Linux utility breaks encrypted SSH connections | Ars Technica (arstechnica.com)

TL;DR there was a backdoor found in the XZ program. All major distros have been updated but it is recommended that you do a fresh install on systems that are exposed to the internet and that had the bad version of the program. Only upstream distros were affected.

Vegoon,

I am not deep enough in it, but from the arch-announce mailinglist:

From the upstream report [1]:

openssh does not directly use liblzma. However debian and several other distributions patch openssh to support systemd notification, and libsystemd does depend on lzma.

Arch does not directly link openssh to liblzma, and thus this attack vector is not possible. You can confirm this by issuing the following command:


<span style="color:#323232;">$(command -v sshd)
</span>

However, out of an abundance of caution, we advise users to remove the malicious code from their system by upgrading either way. This is because other yet-to-be discovered methods to exploit the backdoor could exist.

www.openwall.com/lists/oss-security/2024/03/29/4

Vegoon, (edited )

Die einzige funktionierende Methode für Tierwohl sind viele Bauern, die sich um ihre Tiere kümmern, ganz einfach weil sie ihnen gehören. … Aber wir lassen uns nicht in die Produktion reinreden von scheinheiligen Tierschützern und verwirrten Veganern.

www.freiebauern.de/index.php/forderungen

oder Landvolkbewegung 2.0

volksverpetzer.de/…/landvolkbewegung-schwarze-fah…

Darüber hinaus finden sich vielerorts beim Bauernprotest auch ein Symbol aus den 1920er Jahren: Die schwarze Fahne der völkischen und antisemitischen Landvolkbewegung, die eng mit der Geschichte des Nationalsozialismus verknüpft ist.

Was muss noch alles passieren dass sich die Menge mal drüber Gedanken macht und aufsteht, oder es wenigstens nicht mehr aktiv unterstütz.

Vegoon,

All of the animal industries the report examines are far less regulated than they should be and far less than the public believes they currently are. Today, wide regulatory gaps exist through which pathogens can spillover and spread, leaving the public constantly vulnerable to zoonotic disease.

…harvard.edu/…/animal-markets-and-zoonotic-diseas…

Is just one study. Many say the animal industry is the breeding ground for the next pandemic. Not only in the US but everywhere. The question is not “if” but “when”

Vegoon,

Now we know better:

feddit.de/post/10666309

But hey, still not human to human. Lets give it another week?

Vegoon,

Take a look at the Cargill family, 14 billionaires. From the wiki about the current CEO:

In 2019, former U.S. Congressman Henry A. Waxman, in a report by Mighty Earth, called Cargill “the worst company in the world” and noted that it drives “the most important problems facing our world” (deforestation, pollution, climate change, exploitation) “at a scale that dwarfs their closest competitors.”

Do you think that is because they use every cent to burn coal and oil in their backyard, or

do you think it is because they produce and sell products to consumers which can not be produced without harm to the environment?

99% of the planet could produce zero pollution for the rest of our lives and it wouldn’t even make a dent in the amount of pollution created by the billionaire class.

How do you think they would create that damage to the environment if nobody would buy their products?

Vegoon,

They would sell $165 billion worth of meat, 22% of all meat products consumed in the US to a handful of billionaires and the US government? Ignoring the international business.

Billionaires would never touch that meat. theguardian.com/…/zuckerberg-cattle-hawaii-beef-e…

Vegoon,

You think that after 99% of the US population decided to stop supporting climate change by not buying meat from billionaires, those 99% would still allow them to continue? Not for their own taste and convenience but for some billionaires profits?

Vegoon,

Heißt ja nicht, dass man die Verantwortlichen an der nächsten Autobahnbrücke aufknüpft.

verwirrte Bauerngeräusche

Vegoon,

“Ostern2024” bei Velivery für 10% auf alles bis zum 31.3

Vegoon,

“These pythons can live for almost a month with no water. They can live off the water that sets on their scales in the morning. They can go for almost a year without eating,” Natusch said.

How is this relevant if the goal is to raise and kill them. You would not want to stagger their growth.

It never cease to amaze be seeing all the ways people try to not go plant based.

Vegoon,

A innocent animal suffers and dies for you taste pleasure. According to the WHO and pretty much any health organization it is carcinogenic, causes heart diseases, diabetes, pneumonia and according to the IPCC going vegan is the biggest step a single person can do to fight climate change, a step which, if do not take it, even with 0 fossile fuels climate change will destroy agriculture as we know it. But I am old, lol, so whatever.

Vegoon,

The most positive climate impact you can have is not having a kid, not having a car and not flying, in that order.

I do not have any kids, that’s why I don’t have to worry about your attitudes. But it is not a single thing we have to change, it all has to change.

Transport accounts for around one-fifth of global carbon dioxide (CO2) emissions …Aviation – while it often gets the most attention in discussions on action against climate change – accounts for only 11.6% of transport emissions.

Food is responsible for approximately 26% of global GHG emissions.

Research suggests that if everyone shifted to a plant-based diet we would reduce global land use for agriculture by 75%

Clark et al. show that even if fossil fuel emissions were eliminated immediately, emissions from the global food system alone would make it impossible to limit warming to 1.5°C and difficult even to realize the 2°C target. Thus, major changes in how food is produced are needed if we want to meet the goals of the Paris Agreement.

Where I live meat production goes down already, but you not having a kid will not change anything because you not getting laid was so predictable that every climate model considered it already.

E: Nice touch that you did not refute that meat is bad for your health and now focus on “but there are other things too”

Vegoon,

It is always just a black and white thing without seeing the good things. Just like this kid, he could have maybe killed more and has restrained himself really hard. If we blame him for what he did he will just kill more the next time.

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