gandalf_der_12te

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gandalf_der_12te,

Does she have no shame? How can she lie like this?

‘A catastrophe’: Greenpeace blocks planting of ‘lifesaving’ Golden Rice (www.theguardian.com)

Scientists have warned that a court decision to block the growing of the genetically modified (GM) crop Golden Rice in the Philippines could have catastrophic consequences. Tens of thousands of children could die in the wake of the ruling, they argue....

gandalf_der_12te,

I’d like to point out that Greenpeace or the local population doesn’t have to prove that GM rice is bad. It’s the other way around:

Big corps have to prove that GM rice is good and has no adversarial long-term effects, which is impossible to prove.

gandalf_der_12te,

Exactly. And those who suffer in the end is always the people, never the big corps. Never trust big corps to do the right thing in agriculture. They’ll fuck you over and leave the environment destroyed. Build local species.

gandalf_der_12te,

Depends on what you consider a “native species”. Are apples a native species in germany?

If not, then why do we still mourn the loss of “old”, “traditional” varieties?

gandalf_der_12te,

Rice is a well-understood plant with well-understood properties. One of these properties is that it just doesn’t have many vitamins. If you want vitamins, you have to get another plant as a side-dish.

What these mad scientists propose is to change the very nature of rice to make it something that it is not, to solve a problem (Vitamin A deficiency) that could be approached with much less severe measures (like, growing carrots as a side-dish).

Agriculture is like medicine: You should always attempt to use the approach that is least invasive and has the smallest possible impact, while still solving the problem. This way, you minimize complications and reduce risks.

gandalf_der_12te,

Basically, the issue is that this Golden Rice is a foreign species in Philippines. That comes with a lot of complications.

Most importantly, local farmers don’t have the knowledge how to deal with this new type of rice. They are worried that their native species are being replaced and could go extinct, which would be difficult to revert. It would lead to yet another platform lock-in.

gandalf_der_12te,

highly interesting. I assume it is the abstract thinking process, combined with dissociation from yourself?

Then maybe, any puzzle computer game might provide similar effects.

gandalf_der_12te,

While “having fur and producing milk” may have been the original description of mammals, biology no longer classifies things that way.

Today, all of the classification is based on Clades, which can be established by doing DNA investigation (similarity matching). So, “mammals” are defined as a clade. And whether somebody falls into it or not depends on their DNA similarity. And coconut clearly do not belong into there.

gandalf_der_12te,

But “idiot” isn’t a name, i guess?

/jk Sorry, I’ll show myself out.

gandalf_der_12te,

Also, beware the diseases. Milk can spread virus AFAIK.

gandalf_der_12te,

Oh no you can’t. Building a ship that can cross the ocean (without you drowning first of course) is actually quite difficult. Not only does it have to be extremely durable, you also have to have a lot of knowledge to navigate. And then there’s the economic problems, like who pays for it, how do you get enough food, etc…

gandalf_der_12te,

“We’re pushing the can down the road. Problem is, we’re running out of road.”

gandalf_der_12te,

Water is a living space. It harbors all kinds of life. It’s not good that we try to industrialize rivers. Not good at all. We should use only wind and solar as renewable energy sources. And batteries for storage.

gandalf_der_12te,

I think the best aspect about these dams is that they are already there. We don’t need to do massive investments in our infrastructure to built giant batteries, since water power is already there and can be easily modified to act as storage additionally.

gandalf_der_12te,

Solar panels consist mostly of Silicon, which is the most abundant material in earth’s crust. There’s really no “mineral” whose mining causes fewer problems. And i put “mineral” in quotes because it’s not your typical mineral that you have to dig up to use.

Also, solar panels are entirely non-toxic, making their safe disposal a non-problem.

gandalf_der_12te,

Realistically, it’s not gonna happen.

Energy usage is going to increase (quite a lot, if you ask me) in the future due to low-cost solar power. But also, I have to say, that’s a good thing. Solar power has almost no environmental impact at all, and if you can’t cherish that, but still doom into depression, then I would recommend reconsidering your lifestyle and maybe talk to a therapist.

gandalf_der_12te, (edited )

There’s a few problems:

  • radiation being higher than on Earth
  • 6 months travel to Mars needs many supplies
  • there’s no construction material in outer space. Therefore, no or few spare parts. Everything that’s lost (think leaks) can only be replenished after 6 months.
  • artificial gravity?
  • has to be self-sustaining and able to develop and grow.
gandalf_der_12te,

My father. He’s just a fine dude. Does a lot of things right, is never angry at anybody for too long, and just generally understands what’s important in life and why.

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