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Feeding #genealogy addictions since 2013. Official account for the #genchat #genealogy chat. Host Christine McCloud (geneapleau@lor.sh).

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@genchat Before I leave, Jan had dropped a load of interesting links that I wanted to share with you:
Ellis Island research guide
https://www.statueofliberty.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/Passenger-Search-TipsTricks-1.pdf

And Joe Beine's guide germanroots.com/passengers.html
Be on the lookout for the lists that say who is the relative in the old country and who the passenger is going to meet! Then look for those people and others in the .

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Q5 - a biggie is explained by a Genealogy Note from Prologue Magazine - American women marrying immigrants could lose their own native citizenship!
https://www.archives.gov/files/publications/prologue/2014/spring/citizenship.pdf

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@BRMiller @genchat Yes, I've seen some posts written by @legalgenealogist about that!

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A5 @genchat A few examples from last night:
Jan - Quotas! See the Immigration Act of 1924. https://history.state.gov/milestones/1921-1936/immigration-act#:~:text=The%20Immigration%20Act%20of%201924%20limited%20the%20number%20of%20immigrants,of%20the%201890%20national%20census

Chris - There was a quota put in place in the late 1920s by the US government that really hampered chain migration. Didn't stop some people...

Me - I was also reading about the Chinese exclusion act & how they had to try to work around it. Probably should have saved the link

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A5 @genchat Of course, specific laws vary by country, but I wouldn't be surprised that many are similar.

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@edintone @genchat Oh, linguistics! I didn't even think of that!

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Q5 What kinds of changes in the law affected chain migration? @genchat

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A4 @genchat some answers from last night:
Jan - Tip: Use Stephen P. Morse's One-Step Web Pages to look for Associated Passengers (on the same ticket) during some periods of immigration through Ellis Island.
https://stevemorse.org/ellis2/ellisgold.html

Heather - the focus on who people know - their neighbors, their cousins, their friends - build community. It can help you focus your research. If you encounter a brick wall with one ancestor, using this method might help you uncover more information through another person.

Chris - Letters, stories passed down. Sometimes friends are sponsors on Naturalization papers.

Me - neighborhood/community mapping of FANs can be an indicator of chain migration

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Q4 How does FAN research assist in chain migration research? @genchat

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A3b @genchat Other responses from last night: letters, draft cards

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A3b @genchat One thing I thought about is DNA markers & where they're distributed (Ancestry's Communities?). You may see concentrations of certain markers in places.

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Oh - if I said good morning & it's not morning where you are, please forgive me; my coffee hasn't kicked in yet! @genchat

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ICEBreaker @genchat (Running late today!)

My chain migrants were during the 1880s/early 90s from France; 1st was eldest child Françoise Joséphine Gonella leaving France as a maid with a family going to America in 1884; no passenger list or immigration entry found (since she was a servant it's attached to her employer's record, and we don't know those).

2 years later "Fanchette" marries in Washington DC and her 2nd brother Joseph arrives in New York City. 1/

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@BRMiller Good morning, Betsy! & yes, that sounds like classic chain migration. @genchat

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Q3b #genchat Beyond immigration records, what are some other indicators of chain migration? @genchat

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@RobertJackson58585858 @genchat That is a good one, since obits often list locations of survivors or other significant people at funerals.

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@RobertJackson58585858 @genchat @genchat I have a pair of cousins who both emigrated with their families from / to via in 1830 and 1846. Both groups travelled on the same named ship - The Courier, but it appears the two ships were actually different vessels. The cost and logistics of the journey seem to have been quite an achievement at this distance.

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A3a @genchat Some examples from last night were: pages of the censuses (showing neighbors who they may have known in the old country), newspapers, letters, family stories, naturalization records

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@edintone @genchat That is an awesome site. Have you used "Old Fulton Postcards" newspaper site? They have even more pages than the US Library of Congress.

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Q3a What records can indicate chain migration? @genchat

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A2 @genchat I loved Jan's pros & cons from last night:
Pros (for us) when people don't come over all at the same time, it gives us more records to look at.
Cons (for us): Correlating all the records means it takes more work to prove everyone is related.
Pros: (for immigrant): easier to get money for a ticket when people travel solo or in smaller groups.
Cons (for immigrants) there's a risk that the later immigrants can't get in because of draconian immigration laws.

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Q2 What are the pros and cons of chain migration? @genchat

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A1 @genchat Cristina last night came up with some good reasons: People who are related, are friends or know each other from the same town or village, immigrate to a new country together or around the same time period seeking a better quality of life. Poverty or persecution in their home country are the usual reasons for leaving

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@RobertJackson58585858 @genchat Great example! It wasn't always a single person bringing others over, but sometimes organizations.

My great-grandfather was part of the Kosciusko Club in Holyoke MA & one thing they did was help others immigrate back to a newly-independent Poland.

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@RobertJackson58585858 @genchat See, you went from not knowing to all these instances!

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