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gregorum,

Both have state-provided rehab.

gregorum,

Addiction isn’t a condition which can, generally speaking, be cured. It’s a chronic condition and is often genetic. While many choose a lifetime of treatment, it’s a constant struggle, and the quality of life varies widely.

gregorum,

The Nazis didn’t give those (or many people) a choice; it was forced upon them. This isn’t comparable at all.

gregorum,
gregorum,

Treatment is an option. And people are evaluated before being allowed to end their lives this way.

gregorum,

What evidence do you have of coercion or of any addicts being driven out of/told to leave Cali or Canada?

gregorum,

You’re free to ponder those questions, but what California and Canada are doing has nothing to do with the Nazis.

gregorum,

Now you’re making yourself the arbiter of whose suffering is deserving of relief. Who are you to be the judge?

gregorum,

You’re comparing something that was forced upon people to something that is a choice and which a person must qualify for. It’s comparing apples and oranges.

gregorum,

“Terminal” isn’t the only standard. “A lifetime of irremediable physical and/or psychological suffering” is another.

gregorum,

Personal insults and accusations without evidence are not an answer to my question, but an evasion.

gregorum, (edited )

Why should that be the line? Why should a patient have to be terminally ill in order to have the right to die? Why should irremediable suffering not also be considered as a standard?

gregorum,

Not all drug addicts are capable of recovering. Most are, but not everyone. To assert such a claim evinces a fundamental ignorance of drug addiction.

gregorum,

It’s not a complete argument if you’re going to make accusations without evidence. And hurling insults and accusations instead of answering my question is clearly an evasion.

gregorum,

It is for some

gregorum,

Drug addiction cannot be cured. For many, it can be successfully treated, but it’s a chronic condition which requires a lifetime of treatment. Results vary widely, as does quality of life for those with addiction.

And nobody is saying attempts to treat a person’s addiction shouldn’t be tried first.

gregorum,

What evidence do you have for this?

gregorum,

The article states “irremediable physical and/or psychological suffering” as another standard that’s being used for consideration here, not just whether a person’s condition is terminal.

gregorum,

He’s just a giant turd, so that’s somewhat fitting.

gregorum, (edited )

I like it better when they say silly things to each other. More fodder for the late night comics. Sad that Colbert has covid again :(

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