Having all of this time to reflect and introspect during my illness and recovery over the past few months has left me wondering what impact I believed I was having on my peers and the people around me over the last decade.
One of the problems here is that the SSH agent protocol doesn't include the host that's being authenticated to in the request. In theory we could implement an SSH agent that popped up a request asking you to agree to the request before signing - but it has no way of knowing who it's signing on behalf of, because the protocol doesn't include the destination
@mjg59 Presumably you could at least look at getpeerucred(3C) on the socket, though, and report on the process that's asking for a signature? Depending on what SSH does to the visible arguments, you might even be able to print something relatively accurate about what name you used to connect to the remote system? You could also presumably grovel in /proc/PID/fdinfo to find out the IP of the remote system to which an apparent SSH process has connected.
@rain I'm not sure it's unparalleled, but it is definitely effective. If reading code and thinking hard goes away though I'm not sure how much I would enjoy what comes after that, to be honest.
wow, turns out I don't think I've ever deleted a forked repo on github? It takes a remarkable amount of pressing "yes I'm sure" and reauthing. I guess it's treated the same as the only copy of a repo, so that makes sense.
@danderson I feel like each additional level of confirmation is like a growth ring on a tree which has somehow survived several support call fire years
"I just want an apolitical project where each can contribute according to their ability, to a common purpose to be enjoyed by each according to their need. Why do all these commies keep showing up, it is truly a mystery"
@whitequark When they say those things is it the actual plan that they're going to redo all or most of the current AOT native compiled C stuff so that it targets eBPF instead? Or is it just misdirection to avoid the Rust stuff?
Trying to figure out what to write about illumos is difficult, because for me personally, the entire experience has been pretty terrible from start to finish.
That said, I really don't want to shit on a project that appears to be struggling with commercial support, and frankly, I'm not exactly playing to its strengths.
As I'm using it, its basically still just SVR4 UNIX, and I'm ignoring the advancements based in ZFS, Dtrace, etc.
@ncommander Huh! That's definitely not an out of the ordinary locale. A couple of quick follow-ups: this was OmniOS bloody, right? Were the crashes in a zone you had set up, or just directly when you SSH to the global zone?
@ncommander Yes, the locale files not actually being present is what I had surmised was causing the bash issue. But I would definitely expect en_US.UTF-8 to be present in a stock OmniOS installation. To be clear obviously it shouldn't crash either way, I'm just trying to get a sense of how to reproduce this.
@ncommander I think what @Toasterson was trying to point out was just how nascent things are over there in our ARM corner, and trying to set expectations about how likely it is that there's going to be much documentation at this early stage.
There is definitely no intent to keep people out of the project; illumos has a code of conduct and we welcome users and contributors of all sorts -- I really appreciate you digging in on the bash stuff last night! Thanks again.
@ncommander@Toasterson So, I can't speak for Till, obviously, just for myself and as a core team member (which Till is not, to be clear). I agree that this has not been a great thread in general, and I'm hoping folks on our side will be a little more welcoming from now on here.
I don't think any of this is about credentials. You've had a lot of public, negative stuff to say before really even beginning a dialogue with any of us, and being unhelpfully defensive is an easy trap to fall into.
@ncommander@Toasterson So, on behalf of the project, I'm sorry that you've had a negative experience thus far. You're definitely welcome, if you'd like to be on the mailing lists or in IRC, as a user or a contributor. I will continue to keep an eye on things.