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zu testzwecken > this is my favorite alt acc on the fedi

RitaWerner, to random German
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🧵Ich halte den Haftbefehl gegen Netanjahu und die Spitze der Hamas in vielen Punkten für problematisch.

  • Während Netanjahu in einem demokratischen Prozess gewählt wurde, hat sich die Hamas 2007 im Gaza an die Macht geputscht.
  • Während die Hamas am 7. Oktober Israel überfiel, 1200 Menschen ermordete, 200 verschleppte und in ihrer Agenda klar formuliert, den Staat Israel auslöschen zu wollen. Reagierte die israelische Armee damit die Hamas zu schwächen bzw. Zu zerstören. Nicht nicht Gaza. (1)
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@RitaWerner
tja, die palästinenser*innen durften 2021 halt keine wahlen abhalten, weil israel das nicht wollte > das pro-faschistische argumentieren musst du noch 1 bissel üben

noharmpun, to random
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So, I realized something while listening to the Kan news report from Israel last night:

Western pro-Palestinian protesters don't think that Hamas exists as a unified fighting force.

Many probably don't even believe that Hamas is an elected government that represents the people and fulfills governmental duties.

I think they probably think of Hamas as "a few dozen" extremists, rather than having a membership (prior to the war) of around 40,000, with a trained and well-armed military fighting force in the thousands.
And, polling in Palestine shows Hamas with over a 70% approval rating among the civilian population! During the war!

My brain just didn't realize that protesters would ignore or reject the truth, or I guess that they would unquestioningly repeat their assumptions as truth.

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@noharmpun

Many probably don't even believe that Hamas is an elected government that represents the people and fulfills governmental duties.

could you specify when those elections took place?

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@em
calling opinion polls elections is a bit of a stretch anyway, isn't it? there is that saying: in wars, truth gets killed first > let's not be killers
@noharmpun

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@noharmpun

No one was saying that.

i hope that @em has not read your comment which is denying em's very existence, since em wrote:

Many probably don't even believe that Hamas is an elected government that represents the people and fulfills governmental duties.

in 2007, hamas came to power in gaza in a coup d'etat while israel opted to remain passive

once again: don't kill

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@noharmpun i sincerely apologize for mixing up the commentators!

anyway: your last post seriously lacks consistency and coherence

could you imagine that?

@em

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@noharmpun read what you wrote earlier:

Also, thank goodness Israel stayed out of the conflict. Can you imagine if Israel meddled more than it already did?

There could easily be an argument made that if Israel had not fully withdrawn from Gaza then the lives of Gazans would have been much better off for the entire last 17-18 years of Hamas control.

do want to imply that israel had not interfered in order deliberately making people's lives in gaza more miserable? if so: thinking of it is already despicable in itself

with each post, you are stretching it even more, so let me be clear on this:

  1. hamas is a terror organization
  2. in 2007, hamas took over in gaza in a coup d'état, with israel staying passive
  3. do yourself a favor: stick to facts instead of alternative history
    @em
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@em israel has always interferedin palestine, even when overtly acting passive > pls don't depict israel as a benefactor to the palestinians - stick to the facts

@noharmpun

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@noharmpun
hamas is also part of the palestinians' struggle for liberation, acting out of revengeful sentiment and driven by antisemitism, meanwhile borrowing certain ideological elements from their very enemies

israel has obstructed the palestinian elections 2006, has rendered the hamas-led government powerless, and denied palestinian elections in 2021: a funky way of remaining the only democracy in the middle east > besides, israel has resorted to terrorist actions since its very beginnings > israel is not on a higher moral level than hamas

@em

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@Gordon_Freeman
It really depends on the very magazine. Basically, it's magazines with Ernest as sole moderator where these problems occur. I'd give it a wait.
@Haus

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@jayrhacker
Would you elaborate on this?

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@Kierunkowy74
Yes, moderators can access the reports tab within the magazine panel. Every report must include some reason, hence moderators see them. Regarding bans: without giving a proper reason, no ban can come into effect.

You can also check the modlogs on kbin and lemmy instances for bans (does not apply to mbin).
@bayaz @jayrhacker

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@bayaz It's you who gave me food for thought, alongside many other moderators! I only found out yesterday how to properly ban spam accs on kbin.social.

I really appreciate all efforts to grow and take care of communities, be it on kbin, on lemmy, or on mbin! Every day, I try to keep learning from other moderators.

Given the sheer lack of moderation tools, many mods do great work. I hope the situation will improve so that moderatoring will become easier.

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@bayaz Thank you! This is even worse than I thought! I will try some things out in the near future in order to find a stable way for banning accs.

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