RealJournalism,
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Eight out of the top ten states that had the highest death rates voted for in 2020. The other two -- and . The vaccine denial coming out of FOX News and other right-wing media outlets significantly contributed to Donald Trump's defeat. https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2024/5/6/2239188/-How-The-Right-Wing-Media-Killed-Its-Own-Audience-To-Own-The-Libs?pm_campaign=trending&pm_source=sidebar&pm_medium=web

mekkaokereke,
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@RealJournalism

That's right! The GOP are so foolish! Dems are so much more clever and good! Except...

  • More people died of Covid under Biden than Trump.
  • Under Biden, we ended any pretense of continuing to mitigate Covid
  • Biden reduced reporting on Covid
  • Everyone's like "Biden fixed the economy!" but then they don't want to talk about how he did that, and they don't want to talk about "Back to office" mandates, or CDC saying "Work while positive with Covid! No mask requirements! LOL!"
tawtovo,
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@mekkaokereke
Isn't your first point largely a result of more pandemic time under Biden? The first peak death rate (April 2020) was under Trump, and the second (February 2021) was inherited by Biden from people who were infected before his inauguration, and no subsequent death rate has matched those first two peaks (either raw numbers or 7-day rolling averages).

I strongly disagree with Biden's Covid policies! (Trump's Covid policies were worse.) But your first point seems logically shaky.

mekkaokereke,
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@tawtovo

Nope. Not just due to more time under Covid.

You refuted your own point in your own post. 🙂🙃

If you don't believe me, list out the specific Biden admin Covid policies that you say you disagree with. Don't skip any! It's a long list!

iwein,
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@mekkaokereke @tawtovo I don't think the point is refuted. When Biden started the battle was already lost for two reasons:

  1. Full outbreak+mutations,
  2. Riots against way too mild policy.

If the us pop was generally intelligent, AND the powers that be valued human lives over money, he might have done way better. Both these requirements are not met.

Crediting Trump for the vaccine is ridiculous. He doesn't even know what a vaccine is.

Biden sucks, Trump is way worse. Good luck with that 😜.

mekkaokereke,
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@iwein @tawtovo

Yes it does refute it.

Talk about some specific Covid mitigation policy changes that occurred during Biden's term. You can't just say, "The battle was already lost." That's an excuse. Talk about the delta between US Covid mitigation policy as it existed on Jan 5 2021 (Trump's last day on the job), and as it exists today (deep into Biden's term). Biden owns all of those changes.

You can't use the US population's intelligence or lack thereof either. Same population Trump had.🤷🏿‍♂️

iwein,
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@mekkaokereke @tawtovo the point was " largely a result of more pandemic time under Biden?", right? How is that refuted?

mekkaokereke,
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@iwein @tawtovo

On Jan 5th 2021 (Trump's last day), the CDC recommendation was that if you tested positive for Covid, you should try to isolate for 5 days. Under Biden, that CDC recommendation changed to you, "Yes Yes, positive for Covid... but if you feel good, just go back to work! 🤡"

This decision was made knowing full well that many people infected with Covid, are both contagious and asymptomatic.

This is just one example of a specific policy change made under this admin.

caseylrussell,
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@mekkaokereke @RealJournalism please site your information soures related to your statements will help to verify accuracy.

mekkaokereke,
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@caseylrussell @RealJournalism

You could have typed this into a search engine as quickly as you typed this to me. 🤷🏿‍♂️

Choose sources that you trust.

caseylrussell,
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@mekkaokereke @RealJournalism so you’re not going to site your sources for the claims you’re making? Without reputable sources your claims mean nothing.

mekkaokereke,
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@caseylrussell @RealJournalism

Then my claims mean nothing. Fair!

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