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bayaz, in Useful resources [Updated 2023-12-16]

As mentioned in the other post, I absolutely love NHK Web Easy News: https://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/easy/

It's meant for children in Japan, so you are getting authentic Japanese content at a child's level. Some of the things that I appreciate:

  • You can pick up little bits of culture and history along the way.
  • You can easily show and hide furigana on the web interface.
  • There is a button to have the article read to you in order to practice your listening. The voice is pretty robotic, but I like the practice.
  • Each news article is a simplified version a full-on "grown-up" article from the NHK, and that regular article is linked to at the bottom of the page. This makes for a nice transition -- once you get more comfortable with the kids' articles, you can try out the regular articles, and you can go in having some idea what they are about if you read the kids' ones first.

For anyone who is starting out, don't be disheartened if it's not really "easy" for you -- that will take a while. It's just a lot easier than the adult news.

daredevil,
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Love this, I was recommended this awhile back but completely forgot to save and explore it. Thank you for this!

Eavolution, in Useful resources [Updated 2023-12-16]
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+1 for Obsidian. Not just for learning a language, just for notes in general it's brilliant.

daredevil, in Useful resources [Updated 2023-12-16]
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Starting to wonder if I should just make a doc at this point...

speck, in Tracing Pages for Learning Japanese

Thank you for sharing this!

jouzu, in 皆さん、こんにちは〜

翻訳をするのはいいですね。

どうやって翻訳の正しさを確かめていますか?

最近日本語の授業はかなり手間がかかったので、宿題以外は毎日のAnkiとWriteStreakの文章だけをしました。それでも授業はすごく楽しくて、毎回新しいことを学んでいます。

お疲れ様。

daredevil,
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単語と文の正しい意味について、日本語の翻訳チームがいて、互いを正解することができる。それに辞書や、教科書や、deepLの翻訳や、Googleトレンドや、hinativeや、japanese.stackexchangeや、先生や、日本人の友達や、コーパスや、使っているなどだ。

うん、日本語を勉強するのが可也手間がかかるんだね。けど、ankiとwritestreakはすでにいいと思う。頑張って。

jouzu,

なるほど、説明してくれてありがとう。こんなに深く確かめたのは思わなかった。

はい、頑張る。

bobob, in Useful resources [Updated 2023-12-16]

The pitch accent video was really interesting. Somehow, I never noticed that there were only four patterns.

bobob, in Useful resources [Updated 2023-12-16]

Regarding the dictionary app: I prefer the app Nihongo on iOS. Looking up words works similar to Jisho, but the UI is less buggy. The app also includes audio recordings from native speakers for many words, instead of relying entirely on text-to-speech.

apps.apple.com/de/app/…/id881697245?l=en-GB

daredevil,
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Thank you for the suggestion, the post has been updated.

bobob,

I just noticed that part of the description for Nihonho in the post is in German. Maybe because the link I shared was for the English version of the AppStore? Anyways, here is a link that hopefully provides the English description. It would be nice, if you update the link and text in your post.

apps.apple.com/us/app/…/id881697245?l=en-GB

daredevil,
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Your original reply linked to the German version, the OP has been updated.

bobob, in What are people learning?

I’ve been learning for the past two years. The first year on my own, and then I took two courses at university. I found that learning on my own seems to be way more effective than the classes at university. I mainly focus on speaking and understanding the language, so I try to watch Japanese TV (recently I dropped the English subtitles), listen to simple podcasts, and watch videos on YouTube. I don’t want to completely neglect reading and writing, so I’m also learning kanji using Heisig’s method. Though it will probably take me until mid-next year to work through that book.

Keruanima, in Useful resources [Updated 2023-12-16]
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easy Japaneseのアプリを知っていますか?

daredevil, (edited )
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いいえ、どうしてそれが好きのと聞いてもいいですか?ありがとうございます。

iambubbaq, in Useful resources [Updated 2023-12-16]
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@daredevil @ZILtoid1991 日本語が話せますか?

daredevil,
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はい、できます。一年半くらい勉強しています。あなたはどうですか?

iambubbaq,
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@daredevil @ZILtoid1991 @bayaz あ、すごいね!頑張って!僕も話せます。高校生時代に勉強しました。そして、大学生時代に日本語を専攻しました。でも、あまり話せないので、だんだん悪くなってしまいましたな。

daredevil,
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ええ、ありがとうございますよ!なるほど。大学の時には勉強したが、今一人でちょっと勉強しています。ブッバは日本語が悪くないと思います。上手ね。お当該頑張りましょう〜

ZILtoid1991,
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はい、しかし日本語がむずかしいです。日本語を習う。

daredevil,
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難しくてが、楽しいですね?頑張ってください ^^

bayaz, in What are people learning?

I've been out of practice for a while (darn that real life!), but I'm trying to get back in the swing by reading NHK's Easy News articles (https://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/easy/) on a regular basis. Hopefully soon I can try to read more of the "regular" news (普通のにゅーす) linked at the bottom of the articles.

Hatchet, in What are people learning?

I just bought a suit for a friend's wedding!

New vocab:

  • 生地 cloth, fabric
  • 生地感 texture of fabric
  • 縮める bring in the sides/waist/legs
  • 仕立て tailoring, fitting
  • 直線的 linear
  • 曲線的 curved (style for broad-shouldered as opposed to 直線的 for skinny guys)
  • 既製 off-the-shelf, ready-to-wear (as opposed to パターンオーダー)
  • お渡し ready, done
daredevil,
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That's so exciting! I hope you all have a lovely time. Also, thanks for the vocab words--I'm definitely going to make some flashcards from these. :)

bayaz, in よこそ

こんにちは。日本語を書くのが難しいです。恐らくめったに書くない。

It took me about ten minutes to write that, and I'm sure it's full of mistakes :) I thought it would be good for newbies who stumble into here to see that they don't need to be advanced to post. Feel free to criticize -- I'm here to learn.

I've been studying for a few years, but exclusively reading and listening, not speaking or writing, so I can't piece much together without effort. For anyone just starting out, bear in mind that those are separate skills and you need to practice them all if you want to be proficient.

I'll probably do a lot more lurking than posting, but I figured we all need to chip in occasionally to help these new communities grow. 頑張って!

daredevil,
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I'm glad that you feel comfortable enough to post! It can be difficult taking the first step for many as it's scary for all sorts of reasons. In fact, I have a feeling my Japanese is likely lacking compared to other lurkers here, but I also wanted to help contribute in any way I could.

I think the point you make about reading/listening/writing being different skills is an important reminder and helps contextualize one's goals when learning Japanese or any other language. Some may want to read books or manga, while others may want enough to get by when going on a trip to Japan. There are also plenty of other reasons for one learning Japanese, and they're not mutually exclusive. Having these goals are helpful in that they can provide meaningful indicators for progress.

I appreciate you chiming in, as well as any other lurkers just taking a peek here as well.

🐜が10

NoneOfUrBusiness, in Useful resources [Updated 2023-12-16]

Just wanna say that Duolingo shouldn't be on this list except as something not to use for learning Japanese.

daredevil, (edited )
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When providing critique, it would be appreciated if you include a suggestion alongside it. Constructive feedback becomes even more valuable when accompanied by potential solutions or alternatives.

ZILtoid1991,
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I personally had more luck with Renshuu. It's a Japanese only learning app, and it's more geared towards general Japanese rather than primarily for tourists to get by.

daredevil,
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Thank you for the suggestion; I'll add it to the post!

spencercw, in よこそ

日本語を使うのは楽しいですね。このマガジンが賑やかになるように頑張りましょう〜

daredevil,
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うん、使うのが絶対楽しいよ。賑やかになるように素敵だね。どのくらい勉強をした?

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