Bodypump 125

So the new releases are supposed to launch in our gyms this Saturday, but I've managed to try 125 a couple of times (not one of my usual instructors).

I can't really comment on the music, as I don't recognise any of it (apart from the chest track seems to have samples from something that was maybe used in Combat a while ago), and I haven't tried the combo tracks yet (hopefully next week).

Here's what I can remember about it and its odd quirks.

Warmup: Even after doing this twice it still feels a bit disjointed, there are some 4:4 slow squats that seem to come out of nowhere when I'm not expecting them. Basically in two halves, once round with a bar, then second time through with a plate. Usual deadlifts and dead rows to start, then squats, then four 2:2 pushups. Second round with the plate is squats, alternating step back lunges, then again with an overhead press, then pushups. Notice what's missing ? No clean and press, not even any slow ones.

Squats: 4(?) rounds - two in wide, two in wider stance. The combo is two singles, then a 1:3 drop, repeated 4(?) times and each round ends with two sets of slow 4 bottom half pulses. In fact the whole track is a lot slower than some of the frantic squat tracks we've had recently. You can probably start with your usual weight and expect to go up a bit heavier pretty quickly.

Chest: Bar work and pushups, no plate flies or anything in this release. Again, it's not franticly fast, there's a lot of singles (two sets of 10 and two sets of 16, I think), but they're relatively slow, so again, this ought to be an easy release to increase your chest weight on. The pushups are short - 6 triple pulses and a drop and stop in mid position the first time and wide position to end.

Back track: As I said I don't recognise any of the music, so I can't even tell if the track I heard was the new replacement music (the original track has been withdrawn because the artist "doesn't reflect Les Mills' values"). I can't find info on what the replacement track is, I assume it's a beat-for-beat LM original like when Southpaw replaced Shadowboxer in BP109). It's alternating bar work and single arm rows. Deadlifts and deadrows to start each block, then the combo is two high pulls and a hang clean. Last two blocks end with four hang cleans. The single arm rows are fairly static and slow, so you can probably go heavier than the single weights you were using in BP124. I'm not a fan of the hang cleans, and while the combo sounds like something out of Grit, again, it's not too fast. Notice there are no clean and press. In fact there's no overhead work at all, which is different from older releases that had no clean and press such as BP109 and BP89 (they had plate presses)

Triceps: Start with the bar on the bench for triceps presses, overhead presses and pullovers. Then some slow single and triple triceps kickbacks with a medium weight, then dips, more kickbacks and ending with standing overhead triceps extensions with a heavy plate.

Biceps: Start with the bar. More preacher curls, single curls and mid range pulses. Then swap to two hand weights for single arm preacher curls (it's an odd number, so pay attention and swap arms at the right times), more single curls and mid range pulses.

Lunges: Some older stuff returning here. Keep your bench, but lower it (this is going to annoy the people that try to clear up during the class and step over you and stand on your weights as they're putting equipment away). Using a plate, start with squats on the bench top, then alternating step back lunges off the bench. Then some static work on just one leg, then some really old school alternating step back and step FORWARD lunges onto the bench. We haven't had step forward lunges for a very long time (maybe oven before BP80?). I thought they'd removed them as they were dangerous, but maybe stepping up onto the bench is OK.

Shoulders: three rounds each with plates and then bar. First time cobras, then 8 static shoulder presses, followed by 8 push presses. Second time T raises, then the same bar work. Third time back to the cobras and then the 8+8 presses.

Core: Start with hip bridges, including some where you spread your knees wide at the top. Plank and rotating side raises on one side, then very quickly back to leg extensions and bicycle crunches, then the same again on the other side.

Overall, it felt like an old school release, much slower pace than a lot of recent releases. Some bench top lunges which we've not had since the few releases from BP111 onwards. Step forward lunges which we haven't had for at least 10 years (I think). And no clean and press, which doesn't happen very often either. Just a shame it doesn't have old school music. Is there anybody that likes the new music they've been using?

MetalSamurai,
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Ok. I can fill in the blanks now as I've just had a 45 minute class, so I've tried the two combo tracks as well.

Biceps/Triceps: Starts with standing overhead triceps extensions with a heavy plate. Then biceps curls (no preacher curls!) slow, 2:2, 3:1, singles and 12 fast mid range pulses to finish, then triceps pushups (triple pulses, then some singles with triple mountain climbers), the biceps section repeats and then the triceps pushups section repeats.

Lunges/shoulders: I remember joking around BP111 and the few releases afterwards that the lunge track was borrowing much too heavily from Bodystep. This one takes it further. Starting with two small/medium plates on the bench (drop it down first), squats with a front raise first and then step back lunges off the bench, then some with a side raise, then some with a side rotator raise (potato raise). That's the easy bit. Now switch to a medium/heavy plate in one hand, starting a stride length back from the bench. For each leg forward stepping lunges onto the bench, and simultaneous 90º forward raise of the plate, tap foot and then back. Gradually add in a knee raise whilst up on the bench and then a shoulder press as well. It doesn't sound as complicated as the combined lunge/arnold press in BP104, but it's definitely going to challenge a lot of participants.

I'm told the instructor's notes do make a point of saying that the forward stepping lunges (long ago removed from Bodypump choreo for safety reasons) are included now because stepping up onto the bench is safer (your knee is very unlikely to be way ahead of your ankle), however I'm sure some less coordinated people will be doing these tracks without the bench (especially if you're holding a plate as you can't see your feet), so I hope instructors are watching out for participants.

I remember nothing much about the music from these two other tracks. However I do know now that track 2 (squats) "Big City Life" is the same track used in 95 track 5b (the standing section after the pushups).

Doll_Tow_Jet-ski,
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Thanks for the update!! I'm glad they are using slower exercises. It gives people a chance to work on technique and maybe go up on weights of are regulars.
If people are looking for speed, I think Grit strenght has you covered there, so I'm happy to see BP going back to the basics. That shoulder track seems hard though!
And no idea about the music. Haven't really payed any attention to the titles in like.... ever

MetalSamurai,
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I've spoken to loads of instructors and participants, and nobody likes the fast stuff as you have to compromise your form and reduce weight to keep up (If you watch the videos, you'll see most of the guys that used to present using 35kg+ bars for squats now all tend to use only 30kg or even 20kg). I fell like it started a while ago and has been getting gradually worse since BP109. BP109 was the first to start introducing stuff from Grit - high pulls in the back track, triceps ply pushups and fast squat/plate presses in the combo tracks. I think there was a deliberate attempt to raise heart rates to stop people from dropping out of Pump because their smart watch said they hadn't burned very many calories (which is dumb for way too many reasons). They kept adding more Grit stuff like mountain climbers and I joked with a few instructors that it wouldn't be long before they added burpees (at which most of them said they'd quit being Bodypump instructors). Then the squats got faster and more extreme starting with 111 (fast singles with triple extensions and plate presses), got ridiculous with BP114 (Pin the Grenade nearly broke me when I tried with my normal squat weight). It's silly as in a live class most people just can't keep up.
Frankly most people would do better to just concentrate on form and get their weights right, and that's just harder when you're feeling rushed.

Personally I don't like Grit. Every time I've tried it, it has made me want to throw up. Sprint, on the other hand, is amazing. I did Sprint 19 this morning.

And the music... Maybe I'm just old. The 80 and 90 releases all had songs I either already had in my music library, or had heard before. It meant I knew when the beat was going to drop, and the music would help me push through. The music is why I fell in love with Les Mills in the first place. I tried RPM (despite having severe doubts about how a stationary bike workout could be interesting), and immediately loved the way the music and the choreography worked together. A lot of the music they use now is just meh and completely forgettable.

Doll_Tow_Jet-ski,
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Thanks for the history lesson! It's genuinely interesting to read the perspective from someone who's been doing it from the early days. I started in 2014 and already then the music was something very foreign to what I listen, so for me the music was always just a beat.
And while I love doing Grit, I think trying to incorporate it to BP is a bad idea. Your story about them wanting to change things to meet the expectations of smartwatches is just...sad. I value Les Mills as a science-based fitness developer, and knowing they make decisions based on marketing is quite disappointing.
Anyway, good to know BP is back to the basics! I haven't done it in a while, but you've inspired me to give it a try again :-)

Doll_Tow_Jet-ski,
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So I finally was able to get some extra discs to try Body Pump. I have a gym subscription but unfortunately they don't pay for the Les Mills license, so they have the cheap knockoff classes. I tried them once and it was bad... Luckily I have a subscription to Les Mills On Demand (nowadays Les Mills+). However, I was mostly using it for Grit and Core, because I didn't have enough discs to do Body Pump... until today!

Unfortunately, Les Mills on demand doesn't have BP 125 yet :( I guess the on-line classes take longer to upload the new releases. I ended up doing 124, and damn... I now understand what all that fuzz was about with the grit-like movements. The squat track had some ridiculously fast squats. I really had to push extra hard to stay on the beat. I actually liked the challenge, but I can definitely see why so many people disliked it. It really feels out of place.

Looking forward to trying ! I hope the upload that release soon.

MetalSamurai,
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It'll be about 3 months. LM+ releases are one behind live classes (used to be two releases behind). The instructors pay a lot every quarter for their releases (and the gyms pay a lot for their licence) so they delay it.

I've done 125 for a couple of weeks now and it definitely feels a lot slower than most of the previous releases. Except for the combo in the back track.

Doll_Tow_Jet-ski,
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Except for the combo in the back track.

Ha! My wife goes to a gym with a Les Mills license, so she's done 125 too. She told me the exact same thing about the back track

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