Keeponstalin,

What leftist thinks Russia is communist or even socialist? It’s not hard to be consistent on anti imperialism and anti capitalism.

I guess there is the Nazbols, which is much more a weird fascism than an actual leftist ideology

PugJesus,
PugJesus avatar

What leftist thinks Russia is communist or even socialist?

A handful of online idiots who are super convinced by the support of the Russian Communist Party, the Totally Independent States in the Donbass, and the continued Russian military use of Soviet symbolism.

Keeponstalin,

To me that seems like fascists co-opting ussr aesthetics to help justify the killing of ppl they deem lesser.

Idk about what’s going on with Russian parties like the RCP, I haven’t looked into any of that.

Personally I think the US has a responsibility to aid and also work with zelensky on negotiations (on Ukraine’s terms ofc) to end the war.

PugJesus,
PugJesus avatar

To me that seems like fascists co-opting ussr aesthetics to help justify the killing of ppl they deem lesser.

I mean, it absolutely is, I'm just saying that those co-opted aesthetics are enough to convince some people, unfortunately.

Idk about what’s going on with Russian parties like the RCP, I haven’t looked into any of that.

The Russian Communist Party is essentially token 'opposition' at this point that conveniently agrees with every major United Russia endeavor.

Personally I think the US has a responsibility to aid and also work with zelensky on negotiations (on Ukraine’s terms ofc) to end the war.

Zelenskyy has made it clear ever since the mass graves were discovered in Summer 2022 that only the total withdrawal of Russian troops is going to be regarded as acceptable. So we're probably looking at another two years or so of war, assuming nothing comes out of left field.

Gradually_Adjusting,
@Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world avatar

Something unexpected would be interesting, but Russia’s got that old reliable “Things Got Worse”…

TropicalDingdong,

ahem. there is no green in the wojack on the left, that boi is pure upper left.

PugJesus,
PugJesus avatar

Unfortunately, I've spoken to otherwise sensible leftists who buy into the 'Ukronazi' and 'Luhansk and Donetsk People's Republic' propaganda.

Aux,

There’s no such thing as a sensible leftist.

TootSweet,

Otherwise sensible tankies, you mean.

PugJesus,
PugJesus avatar

You might be surprised. "None of us are immune to propaganda", and all that jazz.

TootSweet,

But in what sense would someone who bought into that propaganda qualify as an anarchist?

I’m not saying there couldn’t possibly be the odd one-off case. I imagine there are people who have no intention to eliminate meat from their diet who call themselves vegan. But, it’d be weird to call them vegan even if they called themselves vegan.

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