"There's no use fighting over the deeds of the first settlers. What's done is done, and we must live with it. But it's within our power to change the way we've been living with it..."
"Why do you think the Divine is fair? In the long run, all wrongs are righted, every minus is balanced with a plus, the columns are totalled and the totals are found correct. But that's in the long run. We must live in the short run, and matters are often unjust there. The compensating forces of the universe make all the accounts come out even, but they grind down the good as well as the wicked in the process."
Does karma work for groups as well as individual souls?
If so, how would you even define the contours of that group?
Culture? Then what about people with multiple cultural influences?
Ancestry? Then what about mixed race people?
Does everyone get bad karma from colonization in proportion to the fraction of the genes or cultural influence they get from colonizers?
Belief? Do you get bad karma in proportion to how much you believe in colonization in the abstract?
The fairest way to do IMO it is action. You get bad karma in proportion to how much bad stuff you do yourself.
Is there maybe some kind of collective soul that each individual can have multiple of in different proportions.
That seems very unfair to me because it means that people can be judged by what people they are related to do. But it's consistent.
@Hyolobrika
> Does karma work for groups as well as individual souls?
I think the point of this dialogue is that any divine justice works at the scale of the universal and eternal. At the scale of human beings, as the famous quote from the Terminator films puts it, "there is no fate but what we make for ourselves".
"Why do you think the Divine is fair? In the long run, all wrongs are righted, every minus is balanced with a plus, the columns are totalled and the totals are found correct. But that's in the long run. We must live in the short run, and matters, and matters are often unjust there. The compensating forces of the universe make all the accounts come out even, but they grind down the good as well as the wicked in the process."
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