MALICIOUS COMPLIANCE FOR MODS: Suggestions by Dr.Neurohax

Written by DrNeurohax

"Some Thoughts on Ways Mods Can Stay in Malicious Compliance, in Order To Prolong the Protest and Their Removal by Admins.

r/funny should be proud. They sat in the crosshairs for longer than anyone thought they would. I hope they, and all the other subs pressured into going restricted or public, continue to show their support in some unique way. Some ideas:

  • Include kbin/lemmy equivalent magazines in the banner and a sticky post. Sticky an autocomment on every post with fediverse info.

  • Only use the standard mod tools and halve your time commitment. "We went back to using the tools they gave us and this is how it will be from now on. Welcome to the new Reddit you guys chose by not supporting the blackout!"

  • Mark the sub NSFW. Realistically, there's rarely a reason anyone in an office should be on Reddit. This should also make the sub unavailable for mobile users when the API changes go into effect.

  • Make every day April Fool's Day. Like when r/DataIsBeautiful posted nothing but pics of Star Trek's Data. If you have no ideas, just google the sub name and see what you find!

    • PIC is also:
      • a type of long catheter that is inserted through a peripheral vein, often in the arm, into a larger vein in the body, used when intravenous treatment is required over a long period. Seems like an important topic for r/Pics to cover. (Dictionary.com)
      • Slang abbreviation for Partner In Crime, so maybe change focus to famous crime duos (Urban Dictionary)
      • Slang for a movie, so become the movie subreddit (Encyclopedia Britannica)
  • Set unreasonable posting requirements without an announcement, but noting the change in the side bar. Gotta read the fine print."

Set posts to require moderator approval.

  • Approve 1 post every hour or only approve really poor quality ones.

Fracture the community.

  • Announce alternative subs for your topic, which you also control, and encourage unsubbing from the original sub. Do some of the above, while also setting the sub to require accounts be subscribed for a month to post. Those that leave will find nothing in the alt subs, which they can't post to, and be unable to post on the main sub for a month. Also, fracturing the large subs will reduce traffic overall, due to the chaos.

  • Remove and replace scrub mods where possible. If you get booted down the line, another supporter can continue the pattern.

  • Forward any post remotely related to a product advertised on Reddit to that company's media contact for approval. Advertisers should know what is being associated with their brands. (And if some really gnarly stuff gets submitted by some non-mod account, it might be more impactful."

We must fight back. Spread the word.

detwaft,

The whole problem with reddit (aside from the people who run it) is the amount of negative energy that comes out there. If that’s all you have, wonderful, unleash it there.. it will help to hasten the end. But in trying to celebrate the death of one thing, you’ll miss opportunities for spreading good vibes here and enjoying the birth of something new. It’s a buzzkill to have a new community sprout up and have everyone obsessed with killing the old one. Think about the type of energy you give to the world, you will get the same in return.

shaggy,

My sentiment exactly. This is why I'm here.. to help stop a really destructive cycle (at least in my life). This feels really refreshing to me and I've never contributed to a community on the internet the way I feel I should here.

Let reddit be. I have only begun, and I want to spread all of the good vibes!

thefloatingpoint,

You are right: I love you.

Now if you excuse me. I have to tell someone on Reddit to sniff on my cock and balls.

waterhouse,

The amount of extra energy folks have for this is crazy. By all means, leave while making a statement, even if that statement is profanity laced. But that site is tearing itself apart just fine on its own, no assistance needed. When you start agitating on a platform that isn’t yours (and let’s be real, Reddit communities haven’t been user owned in a long time, you turn in to the asshole. Reddit may fail, may learn its lesson, or may slowly mutate into something radically different from what it is, but pour all your energy into a creative pursuit. Destruction is fun, but ultimately not very rewarding. Just my perspective.

Confuzzeled,

I think spreading a bit of positivity on reddit with the occasional post about lemmy and the decentralised nature of all this will attract some people and things can grow organically. At the end of the month I'll stay here and leave reddit be. Reddit will either wither or carry on and change from what it's been.

minnieo,
minnieo avatar

i made a nice, positive and neutral post abt my mag @SilentHill kbin on r/silenthill recently. didnt take, but it was worth a shot

kinyutaka,

That's the standard cycle when it comes to these migrations.

  1. People get angry with the old platform.
  2. People find or make a new platform.
  3. People bitch about the old platform on the new platform.
  4. People either go back to the old platform or stay on the new one and forget about the old one.
toofarapart,

It's interesting watching all the people here that... this is clearly their first time experiencing this cycle.

kinyutaka,

It might not even be the first time. They just forgot about why they ever left MySpace and that they ever tried Gab.

alaphic,

'Leave MySpace?' Why would anyone ever do that? 🤣😂 I mean, look at all the shiny and/or sparkly gifs which I've painstakingly arranged with my mad ctrl-v ctrl-c skillz! Trust me bro, this is peak internet.

Narrator:...

Narrator: What? He's not wrong....

HopeOfTheGunblade,
HopeOfTheGunblade avatar

Where's that "First time?" meme when us internet oldsters need it?

ripcord,
ripcord avatar

Eh, just because it's happened a few times before doesn't mean we can't do better or suggest people do.

suslord,
suslord avatar

At this point if the users want to continue using Reddit, that's their choice and I don't think holding a subreddit hostage is gonna help. I like the non-intrusive suggestions such as promoting alternatives. The users ultimately decide whether the platform survives. I'm staying on kbin because I don't like the direction Reddit is (has been) going, I'm just glad this whole situation enlightened me to good alternatives. This is just one more step in the wrong direction and people will continue to leave if they continue to make the user experience worse.

waterhouse,

Well said. Don’t be the bad actor in someone else’s story.

MassiveCelebration78,

“If you build it, they will come.”

Law of attraction is more influential than anything - providing alternatives when/if it’s requested is enough, and contributing here!

daghita,

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  • lrabbt,
    @lrabbt@lemmy.world avatar

    At this point, I'm following Reddit only because of morbid curiosity, but I see some people is very attached to it. I think we can just try and move on, the fediverse future seems very bright 😎

    minnieo,
    minnieo avatar

    Personally for me, even though I have migrated, I am still protesting for the same goals I started protesting for, changes, honesty, integrity, respect of the userbase, for the 3rd party devs they fucked over. Will these things happen? Probably not, thats why I am here. But, I didn't just stop caring simply because I found Kbin. I am not gonna just drop everyone who is currently protesting alongside me. I've migrated everyone I could from my 1.1k member protest server to here or Lemmy, and I encourage them to post content and engage, make a home here, but I haven't just completely dropped the reason I even started this.

    waterhouse,

    Just a counter argument (this IS the internet :)) if you did not continue protesting, it would lower engagement on their platform, low engagement is low ad revenue, low ad revenue punishes the corporate entity that made the decisions that started all of this crap and pissed most rational people off this bad. Not sure which approach is better or worse.

    minnieo,
    minnieo avatar

    If I did not continue protesting, engagement would just remain the same and nothing would happen. Protests aren't meant to be convenient and quiet.

    eekrano, (edited )

    I posted another way to (potentially) fight back here as well (something to make for users, not just mods to use to fight back): https://lemmy.world/post/212583 Looking for thoughts on if it would be effective.

    Aeonx,
    Aeonx avatar

    I am very new to kbin, and have not figured out how to get that link to bring me back to kbin so that I can login and comment without making an account in lemmy.world. A lot of the points mentioned in that thread suggest taking a higher ground. Before I stepped into this thread I definitely was for razing them to the ground and rallying to create hell - but the mixture of positive vibes here as mellowed me out. In reddit, people who disagreed in mass would have been downvoted into oblivion and I would have only saw people who swung one way or another, but here I really get to see the perspective of multiple people. It's refreshing.

    eekrano,

    I am very new to kbin, and have not figured out how to get that link to bring me back to kbin so that I can login and comment without making an account in lemmy.world

    Interesting. I see many comments / posts have this icon: https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/d0d65717-e9bb-4cfb-bc27-4f0fd45463b8.png

    That links back to the posted source (such as clicking on that image in your comment from a lemmy instance that brings me to kbin where you made the comment, but you're right, on the URL I posted it does not have those links back to the kbin article. I don't know how / why they exist on some posts and not others (yet) but in the future if you find yourself on a lemmy instance and want to get back to kbin, find that icon from a user from kbin and it should direct you there.

    Now I'm off to find out why they didn't show up and easier ways to get back to your "home" instance after following a few links!

    Geronimo,

    Fuck reddit and fuck spez ass Huffman, ima lurk here whilst I shit

    Shell45,

    r/askhistorians has created a megathread on past protests...

    alaphic,

    Damn dude... This is absolutely brilliant 🤣😂 Though I gotta say I'm just a bit taken aback by the ease with which you seem to torture... Not judging or anything, by any means, but by the time I got to your 'Fracture the community' section, I was like, 'so how many years did you say you were in charge of gitmo again?'

    I came expecting to see more of a 'late 1930s Austrian resistance to German occupation' kinda vibe, and this dude brought the whole 'French underground'

    roving6478,

    What would this achieve? Mods who've spent years building their communities aren't going to hurt their reputation just so you can live out a fantasy of burning Reddit to the ground. We get it, it hurts to lose a community. But if you're done with Reddit, post content here that makes this place better. For now at least, Reddit and Kbin/Lemmy will exist together. There's not going to be a Diggesque switchover to this platform, there's too many people who just don't share our concerns, amongst other blockers. This is doubly so if the only unique content here is complaining about Reddit.

    Basically, live and let live. Some people will find their way here in due time. Spez is doing a fine job of butchering Reddit himself. He doesn't need help.

    Harlan_Cloverseed,
    Harlan_Cloverseed avatar

    I used both Digg and Reddit for literally years before quitting Digg.

    BasicallyClean,
    BasicallyClean avatar

    The absolute #1 thing we need right now is focus on building kbin:

    We DESPERATELY need a bot that will take submissions from our subreddit and mirror them on kbin so that we can create the same experience over here and build this place in parallel.

    Once Spez eventually ruins Reddit through this Elon phase he's going through, we will have a functioning community here, but we won't do that if we can't recreate the experience.

    Does anyone have a solution to this? Any bot builders out there?

    Ralphensnitch,

    I don't think that would have the intended impact though. What you end up with is a ghost town. It isn't fun chatting about something when nobody else is there. A sub full of posts and zero comments discourages anyone from trying.

    Less posts, but full of comments will be way more appealing because it means there is a community. The posts will come in time.

    ripcord,
    ripcord avatar

    I believe I read that kbin at least doesn't have an API yet, anyone know if this is true?

    Overall I like your plan. Each time migrations happen (like from YouTube to other places), I'm always surprised that people seem to think it's an all-or-nothing thing. Like, I'm surprised I don't start seeing people use or write a service to cross post to a bunch of video sites. Seems like a good way for them to help start building up views on other platforms (and help build alternative platforms that generally just lack content), but I have yet to see ANYONE do it. I'm sure someone has but usually they either just whine about how small other platforms are or try to switch too early and die off.

    alaphic,

    Dude, copyright lawyers would DMCA that down so hard there'd be an instinctual fear of the scent of fresh printer ink ingrained into your bloodline for the next 9 generations... Your kids would grow up thinking their dad was part paper mache...

    cereal7802,

    https://docs.kbin.pub/#introduction

    This page has api documentation.

    roving6478,

    You should just make new posts of unique content instead of ripping posts from Reddit. Recycled memes doesn't make a community - interaction does

    lukini,

    I like the /r/pics approach of John Oliver pictures only.

    MentallyExhausted,

    /r/gifs followed their example

    Leeks,

    Just wait for IPO day and then “Blackout 2: Electric Boogaloo”

    CrazyChildOG,

    I mean I just found out about Lemmy after all the reddit stuff. I realize Lemmy is more of a community project — So the marketing must be done by us I presume.

    I'd gladly switch over to Lemmy altogether and I'm already using both Mlem and Memmy for iOS which are both great (and seemingly both in beta). Let's hope Apollo CEO is down to rewire Apollo App to Lemmy

    ripcord,
    ripcord avatar

    Apollo dev says he wants to move on to something else, doesn't have motivation for this. Not likely to happen.

    However, other apps might convert, other apps will appear (and already are), and who knows, he might change his mind.

    Personally I think if the kbin UI continues to improve I may not care much about an app. Main reason I personally used other apps is because the reddit phone app was ass, the webui sucked and was actively hostile to being used. But it'd be nice to have good options.

    minnieo,
    minnieo avatar

    Kmoon (app for kbin in dev) which is apollo inspired, for example. Kbin already looks weirdly good on mobile browsers anyway, though.

    retronautickz,

    This could only work if it's done en masse. Organized and synchronized.

    Subreddits doing any of this on their own will only get their mods removed faster

    crilen,

    Good, let someone do my free job.

    tinwhiskers,
    tinwhiskers avatar

    We know that simultaneously changing a whole bunch of subs between public and private drives reddit into the ground. Subs are not allowed to stay private or risk being taken over, but they can surely still change between the two modes provided they don't stay dark too long. So, every 48 hours simultaneously switch the subs between the two. Malicious compliance, right?

    Ronno,
    Ronno avatar

    This guy fucks!

    pilvlp,

    They really need to disable and stop all moderation. Maybe even create their own spam bots.

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