SuperSpruce,

I wish I could get a tablet that is like the ReMarkable tablet with more storage (at least 64GB, storage is dirt cheap these days) or a MicroSD slot. I’m not paying $400 for a tablet with 8GB of storage in 2024. For comparison, you could buy 8TB of SSD storage for that price.

This is interesting but not quite what I want.

Yerbouti,

325$, how is that low-priced? I’ve never paid more then 200$ for a phone, I have an s20+ now.

XTornado,

Yeah… It is low priced if you look at Apple or Samsung higher end or recent models… otherwise yes it is expensive.

devilish666,

For that price i can get second hand phone with higher specs & colorful screen

LENINSGHOSTFACEKILLA,
@LENINSGHOSTFACEKILLA@hexbear.net avatar

If this was like $150, I’d definitely buy one

M68040,
@M68040@hexbear.net avatar

I wish I could just keep using a GSM/CDMA phone from 20 years ago indefinitely sometimes.

D61,

Somewhere (and it keeps moving) is a small pile of cellphones that I haven’t gotten around to getting rid of. Every few years I’ll do some cleaning/rearranging and stumble across an old Motorola Razor flip phone and I kinda miss it.

The size and weight were good. Solid construction (dropped the thing a few times and it took the fall like a champ). Doesn’t do smart phone stuff, but hey, there was enough memory that it could store some audio files and simple text files.

fine_sandy_bottom,

I have an e-ink notebook. The low refresh rate is intolerable for doing anything like menus or text input.

I like the idea of a minimal phone but I think e-ink is a deal breaker for me, and I suspect most others.

HumanBehaviorByBjork, (edited )
@HumanBehaviorByBjork@hexbear.net avatar

“Minimal”

At the software level, the Minimal Phone is based on a customized version of Android 13 and uses the MediaTek MT6769 SoC. It has 4 GB of RAM and 128 GB of internal storage. The front camera has a resolution of 8 MP and the main camera 16 MP, of which the latter comes with flash. Bluetooth and WiFi for both the 2.4 and 5 GHz bands are supported. NFC, GPS and a side-mounted fingerprint sensor are also included, as are a compass and gyroscope.

A fingerprint sensor? 16 MP camera? This is just a regular phone with a worse display. The 2009 BlackBerry Tour had 128MB of RAM and a 3.2 MP camera, and it was high end. I realize there just isn’t a market anymore for a device that doesn’t have these features that could be priced under $400, but it really speaks to a lack of imagination in the industry.

HumanBehaviorByBjork, (edited )
@HumanBehaviorByBjork@hexbear.net avatar

Also even if the prototype in the video is fully functional, they are not gonna have these delivered by August this year with a $500k goal lmao.

papertowels,

Yeah, it was interesting, some of the comments here mentioned the price as being too high, I looked at the price and immediately thought “this is going to be vaporware”

buzz86us,

Why do these phones always miss the mark?

Snapz,

Expand on that thought…

buzz86us,

I’m just annoyed that they sell uncomplicated phones, but they are always hundreds of dollars. Just put an eink screen on a cheap SOC price around $40.

limerod,

$40 is way too low. Economics of scale do not apply for such a niche product. $140-180 should be doable.

CaptainHowdy,

The problem is that e-ink is a patented technology and the patent owner charges insanely high royalties for using it in your product.

ShepherdPie, (edited )

You can’t even buy a standalone e-ink display panel for $40.

Their patent is expiring soon so prices will come down but that isn’t the current market.

shitescalates,

Making a product made to discourage usage is always going to fail. Palm phone had everyone excited because we wanted a good small phone. Instead they made an intentionally bad small phone and wondered why no one wanted it.

baduhai,

Looks interesting, I wonder what kind of OS it’s running.

ItsAFake,

It’s running android 13 according to their Indiegogo page.

baduhai,

Oh, this looks even more interesting then. If it has an unlocked bootloader, I might actually consider it.

deafboy,
@deafboy@lemmy.world avatar

So it’s not even out, but already outdated.

pgetsos,
pgetsos avatar

the Minimal Phone is based on a customized version of Android 13

xep,

Would've preferred a version of this with a replaceable battery and no rear camera.

bubbalu,

This sounded like something I would be excited about but damn we got different ideas of ‘low-price’.

FlaminGoku,

This is almost twice as expensive as my moto power was that gives me several days of heavy use or a week of light use on a charge

papertowels,

R&D, baby

EssentialCoffee,

I think my phone was around $1200 when I bought it, so, for me, this is low priced.

I also acknowledge that I bought a flagship Samsung phone. Not everyone does that.

bubbalu,

Yee I have a $20 tracfone lol.

fidodo,

How long does the battery last? I think a week minimum and preferably a month it’s what would be needed to make it worth it.

Blackmist,

“several days”

So the same as most other modern phones under light use.

limerod,

Not the same. E-ink displays only require power when you turn on the backlight or things change on the screen. The screen on time should be higher compared to regular LCD/OLED panels.

Blackmist,

e-ink makes sense for like a book reader. But how often do you do that on a phone vs everything else.

Plus it’s slow to update. This will not be a great experience for running Android.

It’s a bizarre experiment, and the other specs are not very minimal at all, despite the name.

MonkderZweite,

My Galaxy S3 lasted About a month one charge as alarm clock, until the battery gave out a few weeks ago. The Poco 1 lasts about a week, despite having more capacity. Standby power got worse the last 10 years.

AzureRT,
@AzureRT@reddthat.com avatar

That’s because it’s powering a much larger screen + possibly background stuff

MonkderZweite,

Display is not used in standby and services is only core stuff. But that core stuff has gotten more and more.

dutchkimble,

I’d get this if it has other messaging apps like Signal, and banking apps…seems like it has android so should be ok. Unfortunately I don’t see it hitting the market realistically…

helenslunch,

I’d like an e-ink dumbphone/watch

jelloeater85,
@jelloeater85@lemmy.world avatar

Man, I hope that takes off. Would be great to charge your phone every week or two.

LiveLM,

Man, what I really want is a e-ink smart watch…

root,

I switched from a Pebble Time to a Gaemin Vivoactive 4s. I think it’s as close to an eink smart watch as it gets.

enix,
directive0,
@directive0@lemmy.world avatar

I wish Eric had given us pebble v2 instead of beeper, honestly.

histic,

I wonder how hard it would be to open source something similar with something like an nrf52 or similar and a 3d printed enclosure I might have to look into this tbh

MaggiWuerze,

Main problem will probably be battery life. At least if you want to do more than show the time on it.

SeekPie, (edited )

Idk if Bangle.js is open source, but I imagine a e-ink display could be possible?

CaptainHowdy,

Iirc there’s a pine watch. Maybe it didn’t have e-ink

machinaeZER0,

I got into Pebble last year, hahah. I have four now because I’m a weirdo (two Times, a Time Steel and a Round). Thank goodness for Rebble!

enix,

Hopefully you have better luck with the batteries than I did

Szybet,

SQFMI Watchy exists… And has a chinese supplier now which doesn’t suck

The community is also active, recently a few from ground up firmwares have appeared

LiveLM, (edited )

Man, I’ve been dying to get one ever since a friend told me about em.
While I can get them via Aliexpress, they come with a very minimal case, with the sides exposed. I’m struggling to find anyone selling replacement cases and I don’t have access to a 3d printer to make one myself unfortunately.
I’ll keep looking though.

Szybet,

Look up your local 3d printer community

  • The seller on aliexpress will probably have in the future usbc version with cnc case
optissima, (edited )
@optissima@lemmy.world avatar

I was trying to find a link to a supplier, could you link?

Edit: found that it’s on mouser, but also discovered they’re using USB-Micro still, so that’s going to have to be a pass :(

Szybet,

My github has a repo explaining it all, username is the same.

The seller on aliexpress will probably have in the future usbc version with cnc case

LiveLM,

Your repo is very useful, thank you!

dutchkimble,

I have an old Sony eink one which still works and is perfect

vala,

The Garmin Instinct watches have an e-ink like display. I get about 25 days of battery on mine.

www.garmin.com/en-US/p/775421

Mr_Blott,

I have a Fossil Hybrid, it’s perfect

CaptainHowdy,

Not sure if they are still available, but after pebble shut down, I got this Chinese watch called amazfit bip. It has a color e-ink display and lasts roughly a week on a full charge.

I was able to sync to my phone using FOSS called gadgetbridge so I didn’t have to install sketchy Chinese software on my phone.

DontTreadOnBigfoot,
@DontTreadOnBigfoot@lemmy.world avatar

made me curious, so I decided to look it up. Is yours the original Bip?

Looks like the newer ones all have LCD screens and are more like the Fitbit versa.

CaptainHowdy,

Yeah it was the first one

machinaeZER0,

Depending on what features you want/need, you can get a used Pebble on eBay and run Rebble on it. More hoops to jump through if you use an iPhone, but android support is pretty straightforward!

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