strypey, 6 months ago (edited 6 months ago)

So what versions did I test? The only Trisquel version supported right now is Nabia (11). The current versions in the repos for each app I tested were;

• Nheko: 0.6.4 (latest stable release is v0.11.3)

• Quaternion: 0.0.9.4c (latest stable release is 0.0.95.1)

• Revolt: Not even sure, see;
  https://packages.trisquel.org/nabia/revolt

• Spectral: Again, not sure, see;
  https://packages.trisquel.org/nabia/spectral

More recent versions/ reboots may be available in Aramo (Trisquel 12), which is currently in beta.

@hubert @silmathoron

strypey, 6 months ago

Me:
> Aramo (Trisquel 12)... is currently in beta.

I'm wrong! Trisquel Aramo (12) was released in March this year. I haven't yet updated, which would explain why the versions in the repos were so old.

It's still terrible that we're supplying apps that don't work at all, from the official repos of a supported version.

@hubert
@silmathoron

jjardon, 6 months ago

@strypey @matrix I though the same until I tried the nightly version of fractal ; it is really good!

strypey, 6 months ago (edited 6 months ago)

@jjardon
> I though the same until I tried the nightly version of fractal

The Fractal version I tested was 4.4.2, installed from FlatHub, using the Software Manager in LMDE 5. I'll try again after the final version 5.0 ships.

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@hubert
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silmathoron, 6 months ago

@strypey @matrix it's likely you were using old versions (in addition to old apps, for several of them).
Current nheko is quite good, and I think NeoChat and Fractal have seen significant progress, though I haven't tested them recently.
FluffyChat is also available as a flatpak and works decently.

strypey, 6 months ago (edited 6 months ago)

@silmathoron
> it's likely you were using old versions

This is pretty common when installing apps from the software repos operated by distros. I guess what I'm testing is the HX (Human eXperience) for GNU/Linux newbies who install a distro and start installing apps using Add the obvious /Remove programs UI. Not knowing they're usually served heavily out-of-date versions. It's a pretty dire situation.

silmathoron, 6 months ago

@strypey
Until these debian-stable-based distros start proposing flatpak by default, yes.

I mostly meant that

> I'm presuming means there still isn't a functional Matrix client for mobile GNU devices like the PinePhone and Librem5.

was not the right thing to conclude from your experience ;)

strypey, 6 months ago

@silmathoron
So is there a functional Matrix client for mobile GNU device?

silmathoron, 6 months ago

@strypey sure, as I said, nheko and Fluffychat work just fine and I heard Fractal and NeoChat are also good.

strypey, 6 months ago

@silmathoron
> nheko and Fluffychat work just fine and I heard Fractal and NeoChat are also good

Cool, I thought you were commenting on them as desktop clients. I'll try them when I figure out how to get an up-to-date OS onto my PinePhone.

silmathoron, 6 months ago

@strypey that's the beauty of it, they are both good desktop and mobile clients ;)

strypey, 6 months ago

@silmathoron
> they are both good desktop and mobile clients

Good to know. In my limited experience with my PinePhone, this is not a given ; )

strypey, 6 months ago

@silmathoron
> Until these debian-stable-based distros start proposing flatpak by default

Is there a way they could use FlatPak without FlatHub?

silmathoron, 6 months ago

@strypey yes, that's the direction Purism is taking with their PureOS, flatpak can use any repo, it's a bit like like f-droid.
Some distros like Fedora already have their own flatpak repo https://src.fedoraproject.org/projects/flatpaks/*

hubert, 6 months ago

@strypey FWIW, spectral is abandoned. NeoChat is its successor. It recently added encryption support, so it may be a while before that makes it to the various distros.

I'm surprised that Nheko crashed when you entered the full Matrix ID. What version of Nheko were you trying?

strypey, 6 months ago

@hubert
>.What version of Nheko were you trying?

The one currently shipped from the Trisquel 11 repos.

> spectral is abandoned. NeoChat is its successor

I'll let the Trisquel crew know.

hubert, 6 months ago

@strypey That nheko issue could be bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugrep… which is fixed in the latest version of nheko.

strypey, 6 months ago (edited 6 months ago)

@hubert Hopefully that version will soon make it into the versions of Debian and Ubuntu that Trisquel 11 is based off (Ubuntu 22.04 LTS), so I can have another go.