Weekly General Discussion - June 26, 2023 <-> July 02, 2023

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refugeddit,

New weekly, next week we may see a lot more refugees!

anon,
anon avatar

Thanks for creating a weekly. I posted earlier about the ratio in a standalone post because there was no daily available. Happy to hear reactions here instead!

refugeddit,

The ratio, in a sense is a way for us ethereum folks to cope with the constant abuse we have endured from btc maxis.

The day the ratio flips is the day we kinda proved that we were 'right' and they were wrong about us. It proves that ethereum is no longer a shitcoin

I for one understand why this sentiment surfaced, but I do agree that at a certain point we shouldn't care anymore

SilentJohn,
SilentJohn avatar

I dgaf about the ratio and tbh it's kind of cringy and silly that ethfinanciers focus on it as much as they do. Bitcoin could go to $1,000,000 and the ratio drop like a rock, ... , and I wouldn't care. I'd be happy for everybody holding bitcoin. What bitcoin does or is doesn't influence why I'm invested in and using Ethereum/ETH.

refugeddit,

At this point now, I agree with what you say. I had a different perspective when I started in 2016 though, mostly because of the constant FUD I had to face when talking with militant BTC maxis.

At this point, I think there's nothing much left besides slow adoption that will make Ethereum thrive. It is now a matter of when, not if

refugeddit,

Been going through and deleting my reddit comments in preparation for the end of third party apps. Sad to see how this turns out

hanniabu,
hanniabu avatar

Why delete?

btoast777,
btoast777 avatar

Why not delete? If I'm no longer on the platform, and I have the option, I wanna clear out (or at the very least obfuscate) my data.

fiah,
fiah avatar

deny them what they would deny you? I don't know but doing it out of spite would be reason enough even before we try to find a rationale like "I don't want them to exploit my likeness in AI"

fiah,
@fiah@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

oh hi there

refugeddit,

Just out of spite 😛

anon,
anon avatar

For me it was to not leave so many crumbs and doxxing risks, especially on a platform that I’ve lost all trust in.

kbrot,
kbrot avatar

Manually reviewing or using something like https://redact.dev/?

SilentJohn,
SilentJohn avatar

I wonder how the api changes will affect redact, and pushshift for that matter... (does redact just use pushshift under the hood?)

anon,
anon avatar

I would expect redact to stop working, no? Which is why I made sure to nuke all my posts well before the deadline.

What’s scary is one user reporting seeing their posts reinstated after deletion, not once but twice. Unclear whether it was an intentional move by Reddit to rollback deletions against user wishes, or an unspecified sync issue that retrieved posts from an unsynced server somewhere.

Either way, past the deadline, it won’t be realistic to manually nuke thousands of posts and comments in your history, so get it done before the deadline! And don’t delete your account entirely in case Reddit pulls that post resuscitation trick, or you won’t be able to access them again.

hanniabu,
hanniabu avatar

Pretty sure pushshift is shutting down

SilentJohn,
SilentJohn avatar

RIP my deleteRedditPosts script

refugeddit,

Manually, just for fun 🤣. I might not make it by the shut down though

T0Bii,

Great idea with the weekly, especially in the beginning.
I'll be on vacation for a while but once I'm back I'll see if I can make the nitter bot work on here as well if that's something you guys want.

Additionally I highly recommend the ethfinance buddy extension: https://github.com/etheralpha/ethfinance-extension
It as a few kbin features as well like automatically sort by newest. It even shows the amount of doots in here. wow.

refugeddit,

Nitter bot would be awesome!

fiah,
@fiah@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

reminder for everyone running validators to update MEV-boost: github.com/flashbots/mev-boost/releases/tag/v1.6

it’s been a while since 1.5. I don’t see huge changes between 1.5 and 1.6

anon,
anon avatar

Thanks for the reminder. I also recently upgraded my CL/EL clients. It’s nice to see that updates are now less frequent. We’re getting into a steady state where solo node maintenance is at most just a matter of once-monthly logging in, applying security upgrades to the OS, and perhaps upgrading the staking stack. Kudos to the dev teams who’ve produced these clients and achieved relative stability less than a year since the merge.

fiah,
@fiah@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Swell Discord got hacked, don’t click on anything and GTFO!

anon, (edited )
anon avatar

As part of the Reddit exodus, I’ve also done a lot of spring cleaning of my Discord servers too. I’ve left all of them, except the EVMaverick one on which I lurk mostly. I am not happy with Discord as a platform either.

For one, Discord threads aren’t indexed by search engines, meaning much of the knowledge is lost on all non-participants. Second, searching within Discord is a pain. Third, there is just too many hacks, scams, and doxxing happening. Fourth, there’s excessive centralization in one platform and company that may eventually go to shit in the name of eternal growing monetization, just like Reddit did.

refugeddit,

I thought u meant EVM discord and had a mini heart attack

SilentJohn,
SilentJohn avatar

at this point, I'm done with discord. What a joke.

All the nft projects I was part of are dead anyways. daily gwei and evmav discord seem to be the only active and informative ones.

refugeddit,

Price action looking nice, I think we're due for a liftoff soon

fiah,
@fiah@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

I don’t. With retail forgetting about crypto again I think we’ll crab for as long as it takes to get to maximum despair

SilentJohn,
SilentJohn avatar

we're not at maximum despair? It's been depressing af lately.

fiah,
@fiah@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

well yes me too, but I’m not quite at the “laughing like a maniac at the lunacy” stage yet

anon,
anon avatar

On the upside, most of the shady or unsustainable ops like FTX, Terra/Luna, 3AC, BlockFi/Celsius/Voyager, Genesis, etc. are behind us. There are fewer bad agents to purge, and fewer bad news to depress the market further - the glaring exception being perhaps the continued regulatory uncertainty and adversity in the US, and a Binance and/or Tether collapse.

HiPattern,

Just migrated! Hello everyone!

cryptOwOcurrency,
cryptOwOcurrency avatar

Welcome!

kbrot,
kbrot avatar

Hi! ..... pattern

refugeddit,

hello! there's dozens of us here!

anon,
anon avatar

Does anyone experience a broken UX of kbin on Chrome iOS? The thread keeps jumping up and down as I try to navigate, the comment box doesn’t stay in focus as I type, etc.

edit: seems to be much smoother on Safari iOS. We’re still a long way from the silky smoothness of Apollo, which I will miss dearly!

fiah, (edited )
@fiah@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

you can also try making an account on a lemmy instance, then using a lemmy app (memmy on iOS I guess?)

edit: I’m giving “connect for lemmy” a try now while I wait for Sync to release a version. Getting used to a new UI and/or setting it up to your preferences is always a bit of a struggle, but so far it seems plenty good enough for a bit of literal shitposting

edit: also just try the main page of your instance, installed as a PWA on your phone. It actually works really well

Burbank309,

Hello! Any app recommendations for iOS?

kbrot,
kbrot avatar

If you're enjoying kbin, you'll want to keep an eye on Artemis - spiritual successor to Apollo based on kbin.

If you're okay browsing via lemmy, there's Mlem on iOS and Memmy via TestFlight. Official reddit apps Boost and Sync are also both switching to the fediverse, Lemmy first.

superpreem,

Memmy or wefwef

_treebeard_,
_treebeard_ avatar

gm

SilentJohn,
SilentJohn avatar

hi

fiah,
@fiah@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

hi from the fediverse!

cryptOwOcurrency,
cryptOwOcurrency avatar

Well 00:00:00 UTC July 1st just rolled around, and it looks like the third party reddit apps were just cut off.

Reddit is entering a new era, I guess.

refugeddit,

yep, boost app stopped working. Now I will have to find ways to make kbin work

anon, (edited )
anon avatar

Like many others here, I’ve nuked 10+ years of Reddit posts and comments. I have not deleted my account, however, as I worry about Reddit resuscitating my posts against my will, as has happened to others.

I feel genuine sadness at turning the Reddit page, and removing Apollo from my device. I’ve learned a lot from Reddit, including much of what I know now about crypto. On the upside, I will take this as an opportunity to improve my daily habits by spending less time mindlessly doomscrolling, and being more cautious about the risk of doxxing. My contributions to the fediverse will also be more deliberate, meaningful, and targeted. And, I snatched a prized username!

I look forward to being part of this community.

permissionless,

I'm sad about losing 3rd party apps but it feels good to start with a clean slate.

fiah, (edited )
@fiah@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

gonna listen to the restaking alignment discussion with Vitalik, Sreeram, Tim Beiko, Justin Drake, Dankrad & Jessy for a bit

www.youtube.com/watch?v=aP9f_1v9Ulc

edit: I’m only about 1/3rd in but this is already a great and enlightening discussion that I recommend everyone who stakes or is interested in staking watch

huzzah,

Also, Justin talked about moving ethereum to quantum resistance in 10, 15, 20 years. Is this an adequate time frame? Sorry for spamming, just a long time lurker from ethtrader to ethfinance to now kbin/lemmy and choosing to post in hopes that this community thrives here.

cryptOwOcurrency,
cryptOwOcurrency avatar

In my opinion, 10 years is definitely fine, 15 years is probably fine, 20 years would start making me a bit nervous that nation-states might have access to maturing quantum cryptography tech. But I know nothing about quantum tech other than they've been able to work with only a few qubits and that it's really, really hard to add more qubits to the action.

huzzah, (edited )

Sounds like most from the podcast are very cautious about restaking. For what it's worth, I agree and am glad Justin had a plan to neuter it if worse comes to worst. I know we all want to encourage solo staking, but I don't know if this is the healthy way.

cryptOwOcurrency,
cryptOwOcurrency avatar

What’s the plan to neuter?

huzzah,

The realistically available option is making the staking contract updatable. So instead of getting slashed 1 eth and kicked out of the validator pool, you could be slashed up to 32 eth, making restaking a very risky behavior. The other was removing the slashing conditions through one shot signatures. I'm not gonna pretend to understand how this exactly works. Sounds like fancy cryptography that may only be possible in the future decades.

huzzah, (edited )

Rif is dead, only makes sense to move to a decentralized social media for the decentralized internet of value.

kbrot,
kbrot avatar

I'll go where my friends (and content) go. Kbin and Lemmy are both very satisfying so far. As for Discord, I don't know if people are mad enough yet to bother. One civil war at a time. Otherwise, I've got my eyes on both Revolt and Comm in the future.

pa7x1,

Ah shit, here we go again

Any decent mobile apps for kbin?

T0Bii,

There's also https://wefwef.app/
I don't think it works for kbin yet, but it does for lemmy.

And it basically looks and feels like Apollo.

kbrot,
kbrot avatar

It's pretty decent in browser as a PWA. Then coming soon, you'll want to keep your eye on fast-moving app Artemis -- spiritual successor to Apollo, built for kbin/lemmy.

https://kbin.social/m/ArtemisApp/t/121025

The dev is very active on her Mastodon.

pa7x1,

Thanks! Will keep an eye on it, looks promising.

anon,
anon avatar

Clever naming, Artemis was Apollo’s twin sister in Greek mythology.

dreth,

hey frens! regarding deleting your reddit comment history, what is your chosen way to do this?

anon,
anon avatar

I used https://redact.dev/ and it worked very well.

fiah,
@fiah@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

things are so quiet right now

equal-jellyfish1,

Hey everyone, checking in here! Probably going to lower my activity on reddit. Nice to see an alternative here

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