nitefox,

Last month, climate activist Greta Thunberg protested against plans to develop a huge rare earth metals deposit at Kiruna, in Sweden’s far north, which the area’s indigenous Sami people have decried as “colonialism”.

We are to fight climate change, we have to fight for people exploited in (proto) third-world countries… just not in Europe cause then it’s bad

This hypocrisy is so maddening

MrKurteous,

Despite a certain amount of hipocricy, this hurts to hear about because of how electric cars are actually a very bad way to attempt to solve the climate crisis, when we in fact should replace cars by public transport and bikes, and trucks with trains, etc.

I am not 100% what other “clean” technologies they are referring to (busted, yeah I didn’t click the link), but I worry some of them might also be highly inefficient ways to improve things that are more akin to greenwashing.

Swedneck,
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well lady, did you also weep when thousands of people in the rest of the world had their family’s land turned into mines? or did you not even think about that and just merrily enjoyed using devices with batteries?

elouboub,
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Displace those people who have even less than us on another continent where we can't see or hear their suffering while we buy the next iPhone.

I bet you these people will keep buying new phones and things made from what's gained from the mines.

crushyerbones,

Why does this have to be a race to the bottom? Just because some people were expelled from their homes doesn’t mean we have a moral right to keep doing it to everyone.

Swedneck,
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it’s going to continue to happen whether you like it or not, people aren’t going to stop demanding batteries.

Best to at least have it happen in countries where the evicted people are actually compensated and we can regulate the mining operations, and where we will directly feel the impacts of our insistence on overconsumption.

It’s real easy to sit in comfort and say that things should magically stop being bad, but unfortunately that’s not possible and the only way people are going to stop being evicted for mining is if we stop needing the minerals underground to build phones, and people clearly aren’t willing to give up our modern comforts…

crushyerbones,

I agree with your points but this isn’t a case of “regretfully, the only place where we can extract lithium is right here, no where else on the planet has it. You guys have to move for the greater well being of mankind”. It’s just a place where we can pump it out cheaper.

thanksforallthefish,

Indeed. There are many locations for Lithium, it’s very abundant, so it definitely isn’t the only place it can be extracted. Australia, Chile and North America also have huge deposits. It’s definitely not the only place.

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