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TheAndrewBrown, in The 21 Must Read Fantasy Books of All Time

Is Hunger Games considered fantasy? I can’t think of anything fantasy about it, everything is just advanced technology.

AzPsycho,

Yeah. I see no fantasy elements in HG. It’s more science fiction if any thing.

LoganNineFingers, in The 21 Must Read Fantasy Books of All Time

These lists are subjective. I’m glad my favourite one is in there (see user name) but it’s weird to me that Robin Hobb and Codex Alera aren’t on there

Also, stop putting Patrick Rothfuss on these things. His series will never be finished and we should stop getting people stuck on book 2

oehm,

Yeah Rothfuss is what, 10 years late on the final book now? Has he addressed that at all recently?

Bldck,

Crippling anxiety and depression, plus an overwhelming fear of disappointing his entire fan base by not living up to their expectations of his finale.

He reinvested his time into world builders and probably won’t come back to writing any time soon

Senex,
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He’s already disappointed us. Just put the darn book out already.

Bldck,

Disappointing us on schedule is different from writing something bad and disappointing us

TheButtonJustSpins,

And where’s Raymond Feist?!

IonAddis,
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Raymond E. Feist is the only author that made me “understand” why dnd is popular. (I did not have a group growing up to play it with.)

His early works are great–although I am less impressed by his later ones which got very repetitive.

But the collabs with Janny Wurts were wonderful.

degrix,

Magician: Apprentice was my first foray into fantasy and the subsequent series made me a huge fan of the whole genre. It’s definitely on my list to reread.

Spacebar,
@Spacebar@lemmy.world avatar

It’s really irresponsible to include Rothfuss and Martin.

I_Has_A_Hat,

Nah, Martin still has a place. He’s written a ton beyond A Song of Ice and Fire. The Wildcards series has been going on for over 30 years.

Rothfuss wrote 2 books (I refuse to call whatever the hell is novellas were “books”) and has spent the time since going to conventions, playing board games, and raising bees. Which isn’t a problem, seems like a pretty chill lifestyle. What is a problem is his continued promises that he’s working on the book, getting angry at fans when they ask him about it, and his insistence that he’s a modern author despite not putting out a real book for over 15 years now.

BadAdvice,

I’m always sad to see Codex Alera not get the respect it deserves. Granted, considering its origin, it doesn’t deserve much respect, but the end product is just so good imo.

Also never see Embers of Illeniel make the list either. Mageborn is an alright fantasy romp but the Embers prequel series really steps into interesting territory for me. It’s that perfect level of fantasy setting meets Sci fi concepts. Like ye Olde battlefield earth.

UsernameLost,

Granted, considering its origin, it doesn’t deserve much respect

Can you elaborate on that?

BadAdvice,

Codex Alera started as a drunken bet between Jim and another party that he couldn’t write a series on just two wildly disparate concepts. They were “pokemon” and “the lost Roman legion” lmao idk about your feelings but book series founded on foolish drunken bets probably don’t deserve much respect. This is a wondrous exception to that rule.

UsernameLost,

Lmao, never knew that. Honestly, that makes it even more impressive to me

3lizabeth4nn,

That and G. R. R. Martin. ASOIAF is never going to be finished.

I mean he has other stuff, but him completely ignoring finishing his biggest series is frustrating.

Talaraine,
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cucumber_sandwich,

It won’t? I just got sucked into the first audio book by accident and enjoyed it quite a bit.

dresden, in The 21 Must Read Fantasy Books of All Time
@dresden@discuss.online avatar

Well, technically it’s 21 series, not books. 😀

Joejimbobjones,
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Except why just A Wizard of Earthsea. I mean it was a trilogy...

Glaive0,

There’s actually 6 books (book 5 is a short story collection that’s really useful before book 6). I just learned it wasn’t a trilogy this year and enjoyed the last few. Definitely a tonal shift though as she’s matured in her preferences.

Joejimbobjones,
Joejimbobjones avatar

Oh wow. I've got some reading to do! I read them in the late 1970s and there were only the three!

Glaive0,

Enjoy the read! And the reread, they hold up great!

Lodespawn,

What do you mean there's 6 books?! It was the earthsea quartet when I read it like 25 years ago?!

Glaive0,

Yeah! There’s been more released since then! They’re enjoyable. And I’d argue they retain the same audience from back then, discussing and contemplating more advanced ideas, not that the others didn’t.

hsl, in The 21 Must Read Fantasy Books of All Time

These lists are so subjective. For example, The Dresden Files have been around for a while, but I wouldn’t consider them to be the top of the fantasy genre. Also, no Robin Hobb?

EtnaAtsume,

I don’t dislike Dresden Files but I’m liking it less as it veers further & further from its initial premise. Book 1 and book…er, 16? the latest one…are so tonally different. Power creep, yeah, is part of it, but also it went from “fun noir throwback starring Detective Hard-Boiled” solving things cleverly (and without spellslinging ALL the time) to “what if a Jedi with the power of God and pop culture references on his side fought Irish folklore kaijus while Bigfoot was watching”.

Like… I’m strapped in for the ride and enjoying it besides but the series seems to have gotten a lot less intellectually stimulating and than before and is now “big powers do a fighting”.

Just me?

hsl,

I gave up after book 3 so I don’t have much valid input here. :)

LoganNineFingers,

I agree on this. I’m enjoying it none the less and I like the direction its going in. To me, it’s like going to see a movie like “Nobody”

You know what you’re getting into. You know you’ll be entertained. You know it won’t be too long. And you know it’ll never make a list as one of the greats or win any awards.

EtnaAtsume,

The “oh so nerdy” references weren’t quite so ubiquitous earlier in, were they? The question popped into my head the other day but I don’t feel like going back to check.

hydroptic, in Just started The Wandering Inn...then noticed the number of pages.

First time reading fantasy?

Jesus_666,

You could probably make the Wheel of Time series 20% shorter if you removed the fashion descriptions and all instances of people conveying moderate annoyance through body language.

BubbleMonkey,

Wheel of time is one series I wanted to like but just couldn’t get through after a certain point.

Like the author wasn’t quite sure where he wanted to go so just didn’t go anywhere at all for a long time…

halykthered,
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I was told books 1-4 and then the last few were amazing. I wasn’t enraptured by the first few, so I put it down as well. I didn’t want to slog through 5 more books in the hopes I’d potentially enjoy 4 more.

BubbleMonkey,

Sounds about right, I think I got too bored to continue on 5. I seem to recall 4 was a bit slow too but it just dropped right off after.

Life is too short for a slog.

Capitao_Duarte,

Só did I. Two stars for book one, couldn’t even rate book 2, DNF book 3 and never touched it again. It actually made me second guess other books. “If you like TWoT you’ll love X” always make me think twice about reading something

hydroptic,

And cut the length of what seems like 70% of fantasy books in half by only describing food with one sentence

Buddahriffic,

I’d love to see Brandon Sanderson versions of the earlier novels. Sure, he did end up turning what was supposed to be one more book into 3 more that are each thicker than the rest, but I suspect Jordan himself would have made more than 3.

I didn’t stop reading over this, but I was annoyed when one book ends in (big event that can be felt over the entire world) and then the next book doesn’t really advance time at all, but just describes what pretty much every single other character was doing at that moment. Fine, it was kinda cool to see that, but I really just wanted to see the results of that big event instead of having to wait some more years for the next book to come out.

I consider Jordan kinda like Tolkien. Amazing world and story building combined with ok writing. Not bad (way better than I could do) but not amazing either.

Though I do still need to do another read through as an adult, since I read like half of them as a teen and probably missed a lot. Maybe I’ll enjoy the lengthy descriptions of tapestry patterns second time around.

DragonTypeWyvern, (edited )

The Wandering Inn is currently over 12 million words long.

The Wheel of Time is 4.4 million words long.

Apologize to OP, or I’ll sic some goblins on you.

hydroptic,

Holy crap, I had no idea Wandering Inn is that ridiculously long. I take it all back

mesamunefire,

It’s all good. It’s really crazy and most of the chapters are free on their website.

And the author makes a metric fucknton of updates per month. At one point I thought there might be ghost writers…but the author streams for patreon which is wild. So yeah no funny business.

cindybyrd547, in I just watched this little documentary on Ursula K. Le Guin. I never heard of her before this. Does the community have one or two books they recommend?
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Hugin, in I just watched this little documentary on Ursula K. Le Guin. I never heard of her before this. Does the community have one or two books they recommend?

Her big there are The Left Hand of Darkenss (about gender), The Disposed ( capitalism vs anarchism), The Lathe of Heaven (Dreams alter reality).

They are all good but I wouldn’t describe them as easy or fun reads. I didn’t enjoy any of them but after reading them I a lot of depth of thought on the topic.

Personally I liked the Lathe of Heaven best.

RagingHungryPanda,

Thanks for that input! I got the impression her stuff leans more to the heavy side. I’ve got a nice queue to go through now! 😁

RizzRustbolt, in I just watched this little documentary on Ursula K. Le Guin. I never heard of her before this. Does the community have one or two books they recommend?

The Lathe of Heaven. It’s a fun little jaunt through deterministic reality bending.

CuriousRefugee, in I just watched this little documentary on Ursula K. Le Guin. I never heard of her before this. Does the community have one or two books they recommend?

Maybe not the first book to read, but one of the ones that made me think the most was The Dispossessed

Le Guin is one of my favorite authors, so I’m excited to see other people reading her for the first time!

Xaphanos,

My all-time favorite.

GlassHalfHopeful, (edited ) in I just watched this little documentary on Ursula K. Le Guin. I never heard of her before this. Does the community have one or two books they recommend?
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I recently read and really enjoyed The Left Hand of Darkness. It’s crazy that she wrote such a book back then. Now I’m longing for more books like this.

Today, I’m on (a rare) vacation (yay!). I’m reading through her Earthsea books. When they ended sooner than I expected, I realized they were intended as young adult books. It’s not as in depth as other fantasy, but I’ve enjoyed them nonetheless.

koncertejo, in I just watched this little documentary on Ursula K. Le Guin. I never heard of her before this. Does the community have one or two books they recommend?

My favourite is The Left Hand of Darkness, starts out slow and kinda turns into a different book in the second half, but highly recommended.

theilleist, in I just watched this little documentary on Ursula K. Le Guin. I never heard of her before this. Does the community have one or two books they recommend?

If you were only going to read one or two, then sure, go for The Left Hand of Darkness (for sci-fi) or A Wizard of Earthsea (for fantasy), though there are some loose sequels to each of those you might end up wanting to pursue. But personally I’ve always been most fond of Always Coming Home.

Glemek, in I just watched this little documentary on Ursula K. Le Guin. I never heard of her before this. Does the community have one or two books they recommend?

LeGuin is one of my favorite authors. I’ve read a lot, but not all of LeGuin’s novels. She has 2 main multibook series that I’ve read, the Earthsea books and the Hainish cycle.

Earthsea is sort of YA fantasy, but grows up throughout the series. The first 3 are a self contained trilogy, and my favorite is Tombs of Atuan which is book 2, I think would be okay as a standalone title. My other favorite is Tales from Earthsea which is book 5, and is a collection of short stories set in the setting. You’d be missing a little context only reading Tales, but this could also be a standalone.

The Hainish cycle is scifi, and are only loosely connected by the setting and don’t have a too firmly established chronology, or any shared main characters. My favorite from the Hainish Cycle is The Left Hand of Darkness and my 2nd favorite is The Dispossessed.

flying_sheep, in I just watched this little documentary on Ursula K. Le Guin. I never heard of her before this. Does the community have one or two books they recommend?
@flying_sheep@lemmy.ml avatar

“the dispossessed” is an absolute classic and I enjoyed it a lot.

tabris, (edited ) in I just watched this little documentary on Ursula K. Le Guin. I never heard of her before this. Does the community have one or two books they recommend?

Everyone here has already suggested Earthsea, but if you’re also after a great sci-fi from her, I’d suggest The Dispossessed.

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