With youtube blocking adblockers, maybe it’s time to look into alternatives and start migrating videos there as well. Any viable Fediverse alternatives that’s mature enough to contend with youtube?
I need to know how they are handling the server costs involved… even if you host your own instance for just your own uploads, you are still going to be paying a lot whenever people are watching those videos, no?
Video is a way different ballgame than regular social media imo
BitTorrent requires people to be able to connect to each other directly. In a world where almost every home user is behind a router that does NAT, software is no longer able to just open a TCP connection because that requires a publicly open port. I realize that for desktop software some elaborate tricks exist to circumvent this, but how would a website be able to do that?
This by no means a expert explanation. But as I understand it peertube and owncast are video sharing sites that operate much like lemmy but for video. So people start platforms ( like a instance on lemmy ) and then other people can join said platform and watch the videos , however like lemmy you can watch videos across all platforms ( I assume much like lemmy as long as the platform admins allow ). Both peertube and owncast say they are Fediverse projects and as such it should be possible to access the videos on other fediverse enabled applications although not sure how well this in implemented.
I have to say as youtube alternatives I think they fit the bill best as it is free to watch , open source and quite an elegant solution , clearly early days but none the worse for that imo
Under the hood I believe it is a distributed load system ( a bit like the BBC’s Iplayer ) but that is beyond my pay grade.
This is a good explanation I think. Unfortunately, it seems to be exactly the way I understood it before I asked.
It still doesn’t quite make sense.
How do I find other @peertube platforms? Is there a directory? When I try to sub to a channel, I’m prompted to download a messaging app?
It just isn’t intuitive. I’m a pretty tech savvy fella. I’ve now watched 3 videos on the topic, read the welcome guides, visited all the profiles looking for answers. But… I come up blank.
I really do not think that they are aiming to join the fediverse , the subscription model really suggests they want your money and have broadcast aspirations. I also think that the offerings are fairly low level atm of course that might change but I doubt it.
Fediverse being hot right for all things social media now doesn't mean that everything should go that route.
It's like everything went blockchain in 2019 and everything is going AI in 2023. Some things are fine as they are and they don't need to follow the current buzzword.
Sure. All I’m taking about though, and this is really all that the fediverse is about, is a standard format (ie ActivityPub) for the distribution of data over the internet somewhat similar to HTTP and SMTP for web pages and email.
They don’t need a platform or an app and decentralised instances or anything … just some presence that allows their creators and links to their videos to be easily sharable on here.
Not sure where your getting broadcast aspirations from.
Nebula was created by a bunch of youtubers. Mostly the video essay types. They didn’t like that videos got demonotized so easily if they mearly mentioned a controversy. So they created their own system that’s subscription funded so they don’t have to worry about advertisers.
I think being categorized as an alternative to a platform is based on it’s functionality, not the way you pay for it. It’s about what purpose it has to the user.
Besides that, you pay for Youtube as well, but with your data and maybe YT Premium.
Well nothing is free. You’re the product on YouTube.
By the same logic nothing on the fediverse is an alternative, as it runs on donations from users which is basically a subscription model with built in welfare for those not able or willing to donate.
Given that nebula videos are more difficult to produce than rambling text posts, it makes sense to be more stringent about the subscriptions. I’d say therefore it’s very much within the spirit of the fediverse as profits are given back to the creators.
I’m weirded out by the fact that they offered a “lifetime” subscription for rather cheap. That’s not something you do if you want to get indefinite funding for your video platform (hosting video is expensive).
Huh. Didn’t see that. Though it’s not the first time I’ve seen this attempted. I’d guess it’s an idea that spread through certain circles of people interested in long term sustainable services.
From what I’ve heard from Linus Tech Tips, every creator on it owns a bit of Nebula. They get paid from views and when the service stops being profitable they cash out and give every creator their cut.
Yea it’s part of my attraction to the platform/service … the commitment to creator ownership. All of the youtubers I’ve seen talk about nebula as “my streaming service …”.
Nebula is only populated by some of the Top 1% of YouTubers who made a name for themselves on YouTube. You can’t get in until you’re already well-known and they approach you. And once you’re in, you’re stuck shilling for Nebula on YouTube for the rest of your days.
They do not care about the little guy, and expect YouTube to act as its vetting process. It is not a replacement for YouTube. If YouTube went belly up one day, they would not have any place to curate new talent, and would be riding the coattails of whatever ends up being the real replacement for YouTube.
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