nasi_goreng,
@nasi_goreng@lemmy.zip avatar

As I recall, me.dm is Mastodon instance that were paid as part of Medium subsripction.

vamp07,

I wish they also had a Lemmy server. I’ve always liked Medium and have subscribed to them in the past. If they offered a lemmy servers as part of the whole package, that would be a big win for me. 

vamp07,

I’ll check it out. All the ones I have looked at so far feel not well thought out yet. I guess that is to be expected at the beginning.

0xCAFE,

social.digitalcourage.de and mastodon.green both are Mastodon server with a (paid) membership model.

kglitch,

https://cloudisland.nz/about is a paid Mastodon server.

infamousbelgian,

Not sure how tech savvy you are, but hosting your own server costs a few euros per month, you decide how long it stays up and you are chief in command.

Devjavu,

Second this. And other instances would still be accessible. Even more so since lemmy.world (along with probably some others) is starting censorship, which wouldn’t affect you, since you decide what you can see.

skankhunt42,
@skankhunt42@lemmy.ml avatar

I’d love to self host one for everyone but not allow communities. The idea would be that I federate with everyone no matter what and leave a what the user wants to sub to up to them. No censorship at all.

Not having communities would mean I don’t have to worry about what I host and have other instances defederate with me. Plus, I have no interest in being mod, dealing with DCMA,user reports, etc.

meldrik,
@meldrik@lemmy.wtf avatar

You can disable communities on your instance as an admin, but you would need to disable uploading.

skankhunt42,
@skankhunt42@lemmy.ml avatar

Would that allow someone to still post/upload on other communities? Honestly haven’t looked into this at all. Was going to in a couple weeks when I have time to actually sit down and test

quicksand,

Commenting because I’m also interested

skankhunt42,
@skankhunt42@lemmy.ml avatar

When I finally look into it I’ll make sure to let you know. Are you going to selfhist yourself or just want to use it if I actually set it up? Maybe you can help me host it. Lol

quicksand,

If you let me know how to help you, then I’m in. I have a raspberry pi 4 and some external hard drives. That’s it. But I also have some money and would rather help you than host a lonely instance, Mr skankhunt

skankhunt42,
@skankhunt42@lemmy.ml avatar

I’ll have to read about local laws and if I can get in trouble for what the users do/upload. I have no interest in dealing with legal shit… If I’m safe then I’ll have to see how much people charge for storage these days. I don’t really want to run it from my house and I don’t have a lot of disposable income to run it out in the internet somewhere.

Zuberi,
@Zuberi@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Has money but not enough money to leave their cage. Very sad

meldrik,
@meldrik@lemmy.wtf avatar

If a user from your instance posts to a community and wants to upload a file, that file will be saved to your instance. Not the instance in which the community is. Keep that in mind.

ShittyKopper, (edited )

Have you heard of what happened to Rammy? The admin went MIA, a bunch of trolls set up shop, and they (as expected) got defederated from the majority of the network for being an unmoderated trashfire. Or earlier incidents regarding a bunch of open registration instances getting bot sign ups even if those accounts never did anything (to the best of my knowledge anyway).

If you are going to host an instance open to public registrations you need moderation. Even if it’s just to keep the spammers and trolls at bay.

skankhunt42,
@skankhunt42@lemmy.ml avatar

If you are going to host an instance open to public registrations you need moderation. Even if it’s just to keep the spammers and trolls at bay.

Yeah, good point. Lots of things to consider. Thanks for this!

HKayn,
@HKayn@dormi.zone avatar

Your instance will be mirroring (essentially storing a copy of) content from instances it federates with. Depending on your local laws you might be held liable for this.

skankhunt42,
@skankhunt42@lemmy.ml avatar

Yeah, Thank you for this.

It sounds like I’ll also have to store any images my users upload. I’m all for free speech and being anonymous online so I’ll avoid logs and the like but I guess I’ll have to read Canadian law to see if I want to risk running an instance or not. I cant afford a lawyer, nor do I want to deal with anything that goes along with that.

HKayn,
@HKayn@dormi.zone avatar

The GDPR is also a whole other beast that could suckerpunch any instance at any point.

vamp07,

Yeah, I may go with this option, but I really like the idea of helping create an economy. I suspect one of the Achilles heels of the Fediverse will be instances disappearing after users based their identity on a free server that the host eventually lost interest. Time will tell. I may be wrong. But also may be right.

skullgiver,
@skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl avatar

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  • infamousbelgian,

    I don’t know about Mastodon. I run my own Lemmy server, single user. I sometimes run a discovery script honger my “all” populated and I’m good to go.

    skullgiver,
    @skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl avatar

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  • infamousbelgian,

    Indeed. My comment was based on Lemmy. Not sure about what service OP was talking.

    HiddenTower,
    @HiddenTower@lemmy.world avatar

    I think masto.host offers what you want, you can pay to host mastodon. I haven’t seen the same for Lemmy.

    randomguy2323,

    There was a guy here offering that type of service let me look him up and I will share it when I get home.

    BrikoX,
    @BrikoX@lemmy.zip avatar

    elest.io seems to be OSS focused host where you pay per hour and they offer an option to move to any other host.

    elest.io/open-source/lemmy
    elest.io/open-source/mastodon

    freamon,

    communick.com are intending to provide those services. (.news is their Lemmy server)

    Blaze,
    @Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

    Good reminder that I still have to create an alt there

    1984,
    @1984@lemmy.today avatar

    You don’t need a subscription for instances to stay around long term - you need to use them. Instances without users shut down, naturally.

    Instance owners don’t do this to get rich or have someone else pay the bills I believe. They just want users.

    And I think many of us hate subscriptions. :)

    Phegan,

    Absolutely, I think people are still thinking in the mindset of web 2.0. The fediverse is the internet before capitalism ruined it.

    vamp07,

    I understand, and for the most part, I agree, but I would still like to find a paid instance.

    Loulou,

    Why if I may ask?

    ThatOneDudeFromOhio,

    Market research to start their own paid instance likely.

    Loulou,

    That would be tough lol 😆

    I mean one day maybe but it’ll be like paying for Linux, which exists, but you have to work for it and propose an important benefit.

    vamp07,

    I prefer paying for a service rather than donating. When you pay for something, there is an expectation of a service in return. I think the fediverse could benefit from creating an economy for this sort of thing.

    Loulou,

    There is also just using one of a thousand free instances.

    If you think a meager subscription from your part could pay for about anything (dev wise), I think you are wrong.

    density,
    density avatar

    I use free, donation and paid services happily. Not against any model.

    I do not think paid services are as stable as you are imagining. Lots of paid services go dark all the time. Even major ones.

    I think the most stable would be to either run your own or pay someone to run one for you on a VPS. And for community stability, donate to various servers.

    For long term, government/nonprofit funding would be good to have I think.

    OpticalMoose, (edited )
    @OpticalMoose@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

    I kind of feel the same way. When someone is offering service in exchange for pay, it signals that they’re serious about this and see it as a part time job at least, as opposed to someone just doing it as a hobby or just for a learning experience.

    In my search I found 3 that offer multiple services for a single donation/subscription:

    • Neat.Computer - Their terms of service weren’t strong enough for me
    • Tromsite.com - I didn’t like their Peertube upload policy
    • Tchncs.de - The one I ended up joining.

    I really wanted a smaller instance, but I just couldn’t find one that I was happy with.

    vamp07,

    I think the ideal provider would give you a package deal with an identity on a Mastodon, Lemmy, Pixelfed, and whatever else comes along servers.

    Fuckfuckmyfuckingass,
    @Fuckfuckmyfuckingass@lemmy.world avatar

    It seems like most instances have a donation link, so you could just donate on a regular basis.

    vamp07,

    I already do.

    skankhunt42,
    @skankhunt42@lemmy.ml avatar

    For what purpose? Why not a free one? I mean, if the price is right I’ll host you one.

    I’ve been considering hosting one myself, this would give me a push in that direction.

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