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lemmyreader, in Ibis Version 0.1.1

Getting 502 Bad Gateway here.

nutomic,
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Its back up now.

lemmyreader,

Thanks

Omega_Haxors, in Off topic, but related rant about Fandom: Stop using Fandom

marble statue with gamergate glasses profile pic

Ima be real I don’t trust anything that this guy has to say.

Safipok,

The youtuber is representing Fandom editors, and that’s the https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Thug_Life_Glasses.png glass not gamergate glass. My point is ibis will likely have more success integrating fandom communities in the beginning than non-fictional academic wikis.

JackFromWisconsin, in We Should Compete With Wikia, Not Wikipedia
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I definitely agree. The more niche and community-centric wikis of Fandom and Miraheze should be the primary target. Its also a more achievable goal.

nutomic, in We Should Compete With Wikia, Not Wikipedia
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Wikipedia is simply the one I’m familiar with, and learning about all these problems was what motivated me to start working on Ibis. But afaik Wikia doesn’t work any different in a technical sense, so of course Ibis can also be used for those cases.

Tomat0,
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I do think the question of targeting though has an impact on what we design features in mind with and also what kind of usecases we pitch to people, which in turn will shape the sort of content and communities that show up. So there’s value in figuring out this question.

nutomic, (edited ) in Ibis as a Fediverse plug-in
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I agree that it would make sense to integrate a wiki into Lemmy. However that’s much more complicated than a standalone project, because it needs to integrate well with all the existing features. Plus it means more work for all the Lemmy developers, while Ibis could be handled by a completely separate dev team.

Also having Ibis tightly integrated with Lemmy would automatically limit the userbase to existing Lemmy users. The potential userbase for an independent project is much bigger.

That said it would be good if Ibis can optionally integrate with Lemmy, but I’m not sure yet how that would work. The most straightforward option would be to treat Ibis articles as normal Lemmy posts, but maybe that doesn’t make the most sense.

JackFromWisconsin,
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An Ibis article could probably just be considered a post to Lemmy. At least for a read-only view from Lemmy. The questions are: 1. How to show attribution/authorship and 2. Can articles be started or edited on Lemmy?

For 1, probably makes the most sense to show ‘Last edited by XYZ on date.time’. showing more than 1 author gets complicated and would probably be better served by a hyperlink to ibis itself.

For 2, it probably shouldn’t be possible. Maybe a workaround could be that ibis and Lemmy could (optionally) have a unified login system - so your Lemmy account would be good for an Ibis account if your admins chose to install ibis alongside Lemmy.

nutomic,
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Showing authorship would be quite tricky because there might be dozens of editors, and the Lemmy ui simply doesnt have space for that. Editing articles from Lemmy would also be tricky , so yes some type of single signon would make more sense.

morrowind, in Ibis Version 0.1.1
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Honestly, you should have waited for the mobile fix to announce it. Ibis got unnecessarily ragged on places like hn, due to a knee jerk reaction to bad mobile formatting

nutomic,
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I’m not a web designer, the purpose of the announcement was exactly to get such contributions. It’s not my problem if hn users fail to understand the novelty of this project. They are clearly not half as smart as they think of themselves

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