I like the energy, but this is still a dumb take, even if it’s common. Where TF did the idea that middle= midpoint come from? So does “middle age” last just an instant?
We have young, and elderly, so what do we call the span in the middle when you’re neither of those?
I’ve removed myself as much as possible from the economic system. I am trapped, but I’m having fun trying to wake up. ⏰️ Maybe when I can’t move much, which will be soon, I’ll have to roll into a ditch or something 🤷
I’ve never heard anybody suggest that 50 is middle aged, usually it’s traditionally been 30, or nowadays with life expectancies being higher, 36 is spot on.
Anyway, we’re all going to work until we’re dead, to keep the rich ruling class fed. There’s no escape.
The whole point of calling somebody “middle-aged” is that they’re in that indeterminate space where they definitely aren’t young anymore, but they aren’t like, old, old, yet, basically they’re still able-bodied enough to hold down a job.
Not one. Not the other. Somewhere in the middle. Middle-aged.
30 isn’t so old, but it depends hard on the person in question, some are still in great shape, but many 30-year-olds have been nursing a back problem and/or jacked knees for years by the time the birthday comes, they sure as hell don’t feel young. Some 30s haven’t had kids yet, some of them have kids in middle school. So that averages out, and we onboard you to this shitty party at 30. If you can still rock the swimwear at 30, do it, and don’t take it for granted.
For the record, we don’t care what children think old is. Children are insane.
Youngest is 17, oldest is 31. But it was the younger ones when they were around 10 - I think they were just mathematically calculating the middle third. I’m almost in their “old” category now and think that because (fit) people are aging more slowly than past generations middle age is stretching out, if you are defining it as able bodied and working. That stretches it to like 75 for some people. I don’t think over 30 is “young” though, so if there are only 3 categories it’s middle aged, and no way is 75 not old, if you are fit, healthy, and working at that age you are a fit old person.
And who can’t rock a bikini at 30? WTF, where do you live?
And who can’t rock a bikini at 30? WTF, where do you live?
Yeah, wtf are these comments saying “many people have been nursing back problems for years by their 30th birthday” lmfao. Like what world do they live in? Realistically though, they’re probably 12 and think 30 is ancient.
I guess the point is you’re middle aged in regards to your contribution to society. First 15-20 years of your life you pretty much just “take”, while the following 50ish you are expected to chip in. In those terms, 50 sounds about right as being referred to as “middle aged”.
It’s not a debt to society. You have to “chip in” to take care of yourself and what you consume & throw away.
You’re free to go live in the backwoods, build a rudimentary cabin, and hunt or fish to survive. That might be harder work than what you’ve got now though.
There’s lots of wide open spaces and cheap land in the American West. They’re just remote and devoid of many modern conveniences. Source - I live in the Rocky Mountains.
What I hear is somebody bitching about having to work and pay taxes and having not asked to be born, who still demands access to all the modern conveniences that work and taxes pay for.
It could actually be way more than that when you consider retirement (in much of the western world at least). You also can’t really “have agency over yourself” in the sense you mean without making use of what society puts at everyone else’s disposal (roads/internet/currency/etc), and freeloading comes with all sorts of drawbacks because society is shaped in a way that doesn’t reward it for obvious reasons.
Uhm, retirement was invented for the elderly who can’t really work on the fields/processing plants anymore. Work changed and people got older since then.
I took a year off work recently to detox and had a zero cortisol policy. Lines on my face faded, hair looks great and stopped thinning, came back nicely, lost weight, almost have a six pack for the first time in my life approaching 40. People know how stressful work is but most don’t understand what it’s like to truly live for yourself stress free. I’m super fortunate and grateful for having the opportunity to do that and highly recommend.
The hardest part about going back to work was reentering that disgusting American corporate culture of toxic optimism. I’m fine with a lot of work and my stress tolerance/management is much better now. But that culture of toxic optimism is hard to handle.
Yeah I had a genius boss who was an outrageous overworker. Like he didn’t always work on his job but when not he was learning to play guitar, learning languages, always “on”, didn’t sleep much and got more done than most any two regular people could do. Like at work he did the work of 3 people at least. It broke his marriage, his life but he cannot slow down. I actually like him as a person but it’s terrifying.
On every review I got points from him for “work-life management”, limiting work so that I could do life, be with my kids, SLEEP, exercise, take all my “use it or lose it” PTO, etc. I made myself available for one late day a week and one weekend a month, am not inflexible but not so hyperfocused on work and for some reason he could see this as a good quality in an employee - others in the department tried to meet his insane standards and would burn out. By keeping my boundaries I can be creative, see solutions, not get so deep in that I lose the objectivity.
You are not a better worker by killing yourself giving too much to work. Not even by the standards of a boss who is killing himself with overwork. Keep your objectivity. Rest, work, exercise, play, rest. Not work hard play hard, no.
Those people are mentally ill. Living in a permanent state of mania or hypomania isn’t normal or healthy. But because they are hyperfocused and sleep only a few hours a night they manage to get themselves into leadership positions and set the tone for literally everyone else. It’s fucked up.
Setting boundaries is crucial for dealing with these people. I’m so glad my resume and circumstances are strong enough to be able to stand up for myself.
Most people still work manual labor jobs. Cognitive ability also declines with age. Age discrimination during hiring/recruiting is fairly common (witnessed it at nearly every job I’ve ever had, even though it’s illegal, and I’ve had a lot of jobs). There aren’t enough “bullshit jobs” like Walmart greeter for everybody. Aging population can be solved by permissible immigration (which are comparably younger populations), but there are too many racists and politicians worried about demographic shifts.
The problem is that we are living longer and healthier than even before and the trend is to keep on rising.
What the real problem is that allowing a person to actually live is troublesome for the current system in place, as in if you do not produce, you are not valuable.
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