First time using Steam+Proton in Linux. HOLY SHIT!

Ok so a little background first. I’m an older millennial. I started using Linux when I was in college back in 2001. It was Mandrake Linux back then. I had an Asus V6800 DDR Deluxe graphics card with 3D shutter glasses and video-in for video capture.

The kernel module for my graphics card was limited and the shutter glasses didn’t work in Linux. For the video capture, I actually had to download an open source kernel module from some enthusiast. Then I had to literally recompile the kernel with the NVidia and video capture kernel modules to support my graphics card. And when I finally got this to work, I could finally play 3D OpenGL games in Linux. Except there weren’t that many.

If you wanted to run a Windows application, there was Wine, but it took a lot of technical knowhow and a lot of troubleshooting just to get something as simple as freakin’ NOTEPAD to run. Let alone a whole god damn game!

Over time Linux improved quite a bit and received more support from NVidia, but it was still a bit complicated until Ubuntu provided some repos with pre-built modules you could install. Wine was still a pain in the butt and it was mostly used to run MS Office anyways.

When I heard Steam was working on a Linux-based console and that they were working with a pimped up version of Wine, I was a bit skeptical. I was certain there wouldn’t be any support for advanced graphics stuff like ray tracing and DLSS.

On my home PC I have a dual-boot setup with Win 10 and Ubuntu. I’ve been spending most of my time in Win 10 for gaming and entertainment and just the simplicity of it.

Since a couple of years I’ve been hearing more and more about Windows 11 and how everything was going to be tied to your Microsoft account and how much they were going to collect information on your usage and how your privacy was simply gone in that new OS. Also the user interface looked horrible. I love the Win 10 UI. It’s flat, square, the start button is easy to click, the start menu has huge tiles that can be organized in groups making it really simple and quick. I mean, the ergonomics of the UI in Win 10 is the best I’ve ever had. Win 11 is a fucking downgrade. And this week I had to upgrade my work laptop to Win 11 and it’s fucking horrible! Microsoft really screwed up the ergonomics.

Knowing that one day it will be inevitable and that I’ll have to upgrade from my beloved Win10, I decided to give gaming in Linux a go since the gaming part is basically the only thing keeping me from switching entirely to Linux. So booted in Ubuntu, installed the Steam Linux client and started reading on how to take advantage of Proton to run Windows games in compatibility mode.

I went ahead and set it up and installed Ghostrunner. I immediately ran into some problems, but I was expecting this. However, they were simple error messages and within 5 mins of Googling I found out I only had to add some command line parameters to set some environment variables. The game launched! And holy shit! It ran flawlessly! There were no issues with the graphics! I could enable all the NVidia RTX options! Everything worked practically out of the box! I was blown away.

We went from a time where you had to rebuild your fucking kernel to get your graphics card to work and fucking around with Wine to get to a point where you nearly throw your PC out the window until you can get a little app to run to simply running apt install nvidia-driver-xxx and clicking on a button to make a Windows game run in Linux.

You guys. This changes everything.

I think my dream is coming true. I think I might finally go 100% Linux on my PC. I never thought I’d see the day!

Holy shit!

LinusOnLemmyWld,

yeah same, I used to dual boot win10 for certain games and slightly better performance but since kernel 6 something and the 7900xtx I’m gaming on Linux full-time including Starfield

art,
@art@lemmy.world avatar

Back in my day we all we had was Frozen Bubble and that was good enough.

cyborganism,

Supertux

hperrin,

I switched to Linux in 2008, and basically stopped gaming on PC entirely. I had Xbox, PlayStation, and Nintendo consoles to fill the gaming urge for me. Then in 2018, when Proton came out, I finally started gaming on PC again. So, I feel you!

KISSmyOS, (edited )

I switched in 2007, and until Proton came out I enjoyed 11 years of the finest Linux games, like OpenArena, Tux Racer, Oolite, Battle for Wesnoth, OpenTTD, and…that’s about it.

Lots of browsing Synaptic’s “games” category and reading package descriptions like “…is an engine that can be used to…”, “…game files can be created in…” and “…aimed at providing in the future…”

corq,
@corq@sh.itjust.works avatar

Same here, I also have a Deck so if something’s still flaky on linux I have my deck attached to my TV and can play most anything there. Also enjoy desktop mode on steam via the TV as well.

Bonje,
@Bonje@lemmy.world avatar

Recently switched myself. I keep giggling like a coked-up chipmunk every time I download something on Steam and it just fucking works. No to minor fucking about.

A_Random_Idiot,

most the fucking about for steam games is just checking protondb to make sure it doesnt have kernal-level drm/anticheat that wont work via proton.

Which is like…20 seconds of effort.

meekah,
@meekah@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah I switched this weekend and haven’t had any real issues so far. Haven’t booted my windows since. I’ll probably just copy some game files to the Linux formatted Disk beforehand and then wipe it. Screw windows

cyborganism,

Right??? Like how cool is that? Not even Mac’s have games like Linux does now!

MaxVoltage,
@MaxVoltage@lemmy.world avatar

as a Microsoft fanboy and lover of bing pointz i say enjoy our classics!!

Kedly,

The Steam Deck itself is also a great Gateway Linux platform. I’m advanced computer literate but havent really worked up the motivation to fuck around with Linux before since like you said, it was generally understood that Microsoft was the way to go for gaming. Microsoft has been pissing me off more and more since 8 though and now that I have a steam deck I know my next tower is going to be linux as well. The deck is great for turn on and game with its gaming mode, and then when I want to do something a little more advanced I just boot desktop mode on and tinker with linux, quickly getting more familiarity with its quirks and differences

ghen,

I’ve been trying to get Street fighter 6 running for a while now but it still has issues in proton. Overall it runs better than Windows by far, but in certain parts of the game the lighting goes wild and soft locks my computer by maxing out the GPU.

So it’s not all roses in Linux gaming, but it does exist which is nice.

olafurp,

Compared to fucking around with Wine/Winetricks it’s all roses now with some thorns here and there.

ghen,

Yeah, just still not enough to get past the “tinkerers only” mentality of the Linux environment.

vagrantprodigy,

Mandrake was my intro to linux back in 2003 as well. I ran it for a few months, but ended up going back to Windows for my main pc. I kept dabbling though, and decided to find a way to make it work two years ago. It’s not been totally smooth for me, but it’s well worth the effort.

SleepyWheel,

I know this is a gaming sub, but I’ll just add that I had a similar experience with music production. Used to he a fiddly disappointimg nightmare, now it’s smooth and usable as a daily driver

nakura,
@nakura@lemmy.world avatar

I am also a music producer and I would like to switch to Linux but feel like I would be giving up too much. Do you have any tools you would recommend to make it easier to switch and places I can do some reading you would be willing to share?

SleepyWheel,

Replied to OP above with some suggestions

nakura,
@nakura@lemmy.world avatar

Thank you :)

smpl,
@smpl@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

You could check out unfa’s channel and see if some of the videos are what you’re after.

www.youtube.com/channel/UCAYKj_peyESIMDp5LtHlH2A

nakura,
@nakura@lemmy.world avatar

Nice, thank you. I will check out their stuff.

cyborganism,

What tools do you use in Linux?

SleepyWheel,

I use Ubuntu Studio. First thing to do is configure it with the included Studio Controls app, which is easy.

I used Reaper on Windows so it was easy for me to just use the Linux version. I’ve also messed around with Renoise which works well on Linux. People rave about Bitwig and it’s more similar to Ableton I think, but like Ableton it’s expensive. IMO you want want one of these rather than the built in FOSS DAWs, although to be fair I haven’t tried those recently.

All these come with some built in FX to different degrees. Ubuntu Studio also includes a bunch. The free Airwindows plugins are also well worth getting.

I have a couple of U-He synths which are top notch and run native on Linux. They have some FX too which I haven’t tried.

If you want to use VSTs you’ve bought it’s doable with Yabridge apparently, I haven’t tried it.

cyborganism,

That’s pretty awesome. I always forget about Ubuntu studio. It’s a pretty cool distro for creating media content.

Thank you for sharing the tools you use. I will look them up.

Chee_Koala,

How is it possible that I looked around for open DAW alternatives on multiple occasions (and was not succesful) and not once heard about Ubuntu Studio before right this moment? Thx for mentioning!

bgtlover,

@Chee_Koala @SleepyWheel ubuntu studio is not a DAW, it's a music producer focused ubuntu flavour. If you want an open DAW, did you try zrythm?

Tippon,

Just a reminder, but it’s for photo, video, and other media producers too. I haven’t used it for a while, but last time I did, it had some great tools :)

zyberteq,

I went full Linux this spring. Got fed up with Windows 11 and had a great experience with my Steamdeck, so I installed Pop!_OS and have been a happy gamer ever since.

Just need to reinstall everything probably, because I have a few very weird bugs. I got workarounds, but they’re temporary and annoying.

Dremor, (edited )
@Dremor@lemmy.world avatar

I went 100% Linux gaming since last November (Steam Deck and Desktop).

To this day I only ran into minor annoyances like a small keyboard issue with FFXIV (fixed using a checkbox in XIVLauncher), some gamepad issues (DO NOT buy the 8bitdo Ultimate if you want to use it on Linux, it is a nightmare. But the 8bitdo Pro 2 works flawlessly). And only two game that wouldn’t work : Gog.com Necrobarista (due to a coding error that freezes the game until achievement is displayed. Steam version runs fine), and Fortnite (not a huge loss, but I like to disconnect my neurones from time to time).

Other than that and the lack of first party support for gaming peripherals, everything is great. And my Pihole log isn’t flooded by MS anymore.

Anarch157a,
@Anarch157a@lemmy.world avatar

Try installing GOG Galaxy with Wine (Lutris can do it for you easy) and run Necrobarista from Galaxy, this should take care of displaying the achievement.

Dremor,
@Dremor@lemmy.world avatar

It could, but I decided to not go out of my way for a single game.

cyborganism,

Yeah I’ve had issues with one of my controllers so far. It’s a third party Xbox controller. It’s recognizing all the joysticks wrong. I’ll probably find a workaround someday. I just haven’t got around to it yet.

Dremor,
@Dremor@lemmy.world avatar

In my case it is just not recognized at all. It tells it is an Xbox controller, but gives the wrong IDs, resulting in it not being taken into account by xpad. Last time I managed to make it work I had to build a customly patched xpad, but for some reason it doesn’t work anymore…

cyborganism,

Linux is still gonna Linux I guess. LoL

Rook64,

I also struggled with getting my 8bitdo Ultimate controller to work on Linux. My solution ended being to use a Mayflash controller adapter to trick my PC into thinking it was just a normal Xinput controller, while the adapter itself thought it was a Switch Pro Controller. I’ve since become a huge fan of these little adapters, as they basically make any controller compatible with any platform, including Linux, so that’s one less annoying compatibility issue to deal with.

sleepmode,

I used to help friends get their nvidia cards’ 3D drivers working with various distros around that time period. Most would have given up on it entirely if not for that. It’s so nice how much easier it is now. Now the hassle is usually anti-cheat… I’m hoping the pressure from the Steamdeck taking off in popularity counteracts that.

axby,

+1 to everything you said. Another funny thing I noticed: I looked at my steam catalog on a family member’s Macbook. Many of the games aren’t available on Mac, plus they dropped 32 bit executable support.

I never thought that only ~15 years later (from when I first tried Linux) we would start booting into linux from a mainstream OS for gaming. How the times have changed.

sugar_in_your_tea,

Yup. I occasionally play games on macOS because that’s what I use for work, but I have to be careful because most games don’t work at all, and some run like utter crap. My main PC runs Linux and I can run pretty much everything in my library.

9715698,

I’m glad that at least BG3 works on Mac - nice to have at least one clutch game for a long flight or business trip.

cyborganism,

Can you imagine if Mac computers could run the same catalog of games than on PC?

c10l,

They can, with the Game Porting Toolkit. I’ve played Starfield and CP2077 on my Mac. Performance wasn’t great but it was playable. I expect that to improve as the tech matures.

mmababes,

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  • cyborganism,

    Are you kidding? The whole internet runs on FOSS! Companies love it because it saves them on licensing fees. FOSS is never going away.

    ahriboy,
    ahriboy avatar

    Is Genshin compatible with latest Proton GE?

    AlmightySnoo,
    @AlmightySnoo@lemmy.world avatar

    Not sure about the latest version, but it definitely works with Proton, google an anime game launcher (it’s likely against the TOS as there’s no kernel-side anti-cheat and telemetry gets disabled but so far no one got banned).

    frozen,
    @frozen@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz avatar

    I’ve gotten banned using the same project for Honkai, so it’s not foolproof, unfortunately.

    AlmightySnoo,
    @AlmightySnoo@lemmy.world avatar

    Wow sorry, that’s good to know. I didn’t know the launcher could also be used with Honkai. I’ve been playing Genshin Impact for close to two months with that launcher and I haven’t been banned yet, it could be that Honkai’s checks are stricter?

    akatsukilevi,
    akatsukilevi avatar

    Were you playing it by the time it launched? Back when Star Rail launched, it was quite tricky because they still were working on it, but nowadays it is going smooth and there haven't had any ban reports in check logs 5 months

    frozen,
    @frozen@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz avatar

    That’s actually a good point. I got banned in May, but the Discord shows no ban reports since June, so that’s definitely promising.

    akatsukilevi,
    akatsukilevi avatar

    I haven't really tested StarRail, but Genshin has been working flawless for months. Went from brand new account to finishing Inazuma questline and now getting into Fontaine with 0 issues(aside from one time where DXVK messed me up, but that's due to my graphics card being a ancient relic XP)
    Also, tip, don't enable the FPS Unlocker. It says it makes you get detected by the anti-cheat, but I never faced this, but it seems to lag the game out? Like, with it enabled, I can't even get near Dragonspire

    frozen,
    @frozen@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz avatar

    Even if it works (which it does), it’s dangerous to play any MHY game on Linux, as you almost definitely will get banned. There’s a project I was using to play Honkai that supposedly disabled telemetry, but I still got a week-long ban. I currently play in a Windows VM by passing an extra GPU through, but that’s not foolproof either and is also technically ban-worthy.

    cyborganism,

    I don’t know. I don’t play Genshin. Have you tried it?

    LittleBobbyTables,

    Not sure about Proton-GE but I’ve been playing the game through Lutris for a while now and it works fine.

    aruser,

    To add to this, I’m also reporting that since a Genshin Patch in June or July (3.8?), genshin launcher and the game just work without any issues. Installed through Lutris, using the normal launcher installation (so not the one that did the patches).

    jeremy_sylvis,
    @jeremy_sylvis@midwest.social avatar

    We went from a time where you had to rebuild your fucking kernel to get your graphics card to work and fucking around with Wine to get to a point where you nearly throw your PC out the window until you can get a little app to run to simply running apt install nvidia-driver-xxx and clicking on a button to make a Windows game run in Linux.

    I have fond memories of getting World of Warcraft working on Linux back in ~2008 only to realize it had an OpenGL mode that ran better than the DirectX mode I was trying - and failing - to get working.

    You aren’t wrong about kernel and driver shenanigans.

    cyborganism,

    When you got it to work though… Man it felt like such an accomplishment.

    Norgur,

    I only recently got an update from a mailing list thread I had submitted something to about WINE not using dual cores in WoW.... That threw me right back

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