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iopq, in don't lie... it happens to all of us eventually

laughs in NixOS generations

Laser,

NixOS is great, though it is hard to get into an unbootable system in the first place. If your config builds, chances are high that it also boots proper.

Kata1yst, in to vi or not to vi
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I love vim and lunarvim. But recently I've been trying helix and I'm super impressed.

Everything just keeps getting better in leaps and bounds. Crazy to watch over the last decade.

thatfuckinglinuxguy,
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in case anyone besides me is curious: helix github | install docs

looks neat. thanks for the mention

Kata1yst, in i like gnu and all but that's a bit of a mouthful...
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No, Richard, it's 'Linux', not 'GNU/Linux'. The most important contributions that the FSF made to Linux were the creation of the GPL and the GCC compiler. Those are fine and inspired products. GCC is a monumental achievement and has earned you, RMS, and the Free Software Foundation countless kudos and much appreciation.

Following are some reasons for you to mull over, including some already answered in your FAQ.

One guy, Linus Torvalds, used GCC to make his operating system (yes, Linux is an OS -- more on this later). He named it 'Linux' with a little help from his friends. Why doesn't he call it GNU/Linux? Because he wrote it, with more help from his friends, not you. You named your stuff, I named my stuff -- including the software I wrote using GCC -- and Linus named his stuff. The proper name is Linux because Linus Torvalds says so. Linus has spoken. Accept his authority. To do otherwise is to become a nag. You don't want to be known as a nag, do you?

(An operating system) != (a distribution). Linux is an operating system. By my definition, an operating system is that software which provides and limits access to hardware resources on a computer. That definition applies whereever you see Linux in use. However, Linux is usually distributed with a collection of utilities and applications to make it easily configurable as a desktop system, a server, a development box, or a graphics workstation, or whatever the user needs. In such a configuration, we have a Linux (based) distribution. Therein lies your strongest argument for the unwieldy title 'GNU/Linux' (when said bundled software is largely from the FSF). Go bug the distribution makers on that one. Take your beef to Red Hat, Mandrake, and Slackware. At least there you have an argument. Linux alone is an operating system that can be used in various applications without any GNU software whatsoever. Embedded applications come to mind as an obvious example.

Next, even if we limit the GNU/Linux title to the GNU-based Linux distributions, we run into another obvious problem. XFree86 may well be more important to a particular Linux installation than the sum of all the GNU contributions. More properly, shouldn't the distribution be called XFree86/Linux? Or, at a minimum, XFree86/GNU/Linux? Of course, it would be rather arbitrary to draw the line there when many other fine contributions go unlisted. Yes, I know you've heard this one before. Get used to it. You'll keep hearing it until you can cleanly counter it.

You seem to like the lines-of-code metric. There are many lines of GNU code in a typical Linux distribution. You seem to suggest that (more LOC) == (more important). However, I submit to you that raw LOC numbers do not directly correlate with importance. I would suggest that clock cycles spent on code is a better metric. For example, if my system spends 90% of its time executing XFree86 code, XFree86 is probably the single most important collection of code on my system. Even if I loaded ten times as many lines of useless bloatware on my system and I never excuted that bloatware, it certainly isn't more important code than XFree86. Obviously, this metric isn't perfect either, but LOC really, really sucks. Please refrain from using it ever again in supporting any argument.

Last, I'd like to point out that we Linux and GNU users shouldn't be fighting among ourselves over naming other people's software. But what the heck, I'm in a bad mood now. I think I'm feeling sufficiently obnoxious to make the point that GCC is so very famous and, yes, so very useful only because Linux was developed. In a show of proper respect and gratitude, shouldn't you and everyone refer to GCC as 'the Linux compiler'? Or at least, 'Linux GCC'? Seriously, where would your masterpiece be without Linux? Languishing with the HURD?

If there is a moral buried in this rant, maybe it is this:

Be grateful for your abilities and your incredible success and your considerable fame. Continue to use that success and fame for good, not evil. Also, be especially grateful for Linux' huge contribution to that success. You, RMS, the Free Software Foundation, and GNU software have reached their current high profiles largely on the back of Linux. You have changed the world. Now, go forth and don't be a nag.

Thanks for listening.

Kata1yst, in GitHub - wez/wezterm: A GPU-accelerated cross-platform terminal emulator and multiplexer written by @wez and implemented in Rust
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The best feature is it has a sane configuration system, unlike kitty...

-spam-, in don't lie... it happens to all of us eventually
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It's fine, I wanted to try a different distro anyway...

metaStatic, in [meme] They don't understand our suffering.

is this the link to download real player?

backhdlp, in Starterpak
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Wait the background activity thing comes from flatpak?

Limitless_screaming,
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Yes, what's weirder is that the apps that do not have permission to run in the background cause this to pop up, while apps that do run in the background (e.g. RSSGuard) do not.

Install flatseal and you'll be able to check and change permissions of flatpak apps.

klemptor, in Just showing off my desktop :)

Dope wallpaper.

hyperspace, in Personally, I still think they're better than snaps...
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Electron has been the worst thing to happen to the desktop. Unreliable, uncomfortable, insecure piece of crap. Companies use it thinking it will be easier but then they end up using a version that's been EOL for the last 5 years because they have difficulty upgrading

thatfuckinglinuxguy,
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Not saying I disagree with you but you can imagine how strongly I feel about snaps being utter garbage then ;-)

thatfuckinglinuxguy, (edited ) in Red hat
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Yeah, much as I really really love Fedora, I think the new RHEL source policies are going to hurt the Red Hat brand more than help it... I think Debian and Suse stand to benefit more from this than RH.

Also, I see most articles/people talking about this in terms of Alma and Rocky and I'm sure that's part of it but does anyone else get the sense that this was more aimed at Oracle Linux to gtfo their asses and make their own shit? Nothing to back that up, was just my own gut feeling and curious what others think.


Edit: thought I'd add some context... just in case some of you haven't been keeping up with the news, referring to this:

Phoronix: Red Hat Now Limiting RHEL Sources To CentOS Stream

Also related:

Rocky Linux Shares How They May Continue To Obtain The RHEL Source Code

Sam_uk,
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@thatfuckinglinuxguy I'm surprised there's not a more coherent support offering for Debian. (I'm not counting Canonical here) I know there are some small consultancies.

Perhaps this is the moment for a medium-scale Debian company to emerge. The kind of company you might do a multi-million support contract with.

user224, in Run it without arguments if you don't believe...

Meanwhile me who couldn’t figure out how to exit Emacs:

Bishma, in Run it without arguments if you don't believe...
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When I worked in a college computer lab in the early 00's we joked that the more secret you want a piece of info to be, the larger the font you should use when you post on the lab door.

TimeSquirrel, in You can't close vim, I can't close Gnome looking glass. We're not the same
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That's when you just sneak up from behind it and slit its throat with a kill command from another terminal. Works for every problem.

Glome, in Run it without arguments if you don't believe...

E37: No write since last change

thatfuckinglinuxguy, in Run it without arguments if you don't believe...
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That said, if distros included default .vimrc files that were geared more towards modern newbies (since us old farts can probably figure out how to customize things easier than they can)... probably, we wouldn't hear about so many newer Linux users preferring nano

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