Titou,

Never had any issues with Arch

bazzett,
@bazzett@lemmy.world avatar

I really like Debian, but for some reason my not-new-laptop didn’t liked it. Issues with suspend, the WiFi and the NVME drive made me to nuke it last Wednesday and in its place I installed Fedora, which seems to play better with the hardware. At least I don’t have problems with it in my desktop.

Johanno,

Go to debian-testing. Your dayli updates are back too

bazzett,
@bazzett@lemmy.world avatar

Been there, done that. It wasn’t a bad experience, but also not a good one.

lodaket,
@lodaket@lemmy.world avatar

A testing/sid hybrid is awesome on my hardware. These guides are pretty useful for keeping things sane:

ComradeWeebelo,

If you’re running Debian stable, your hardware was probably too new for the kernel. Unless they changed their development paradigm when I last ran it, stable is always 2-3 years behind mainline Linux software aside from security patches. It’s one of the key reasons why it’s so stable.

See the Don’t Suffer from Shiny Stuff Syndrome on the official wiki.

bazzett,
@bazzett@lemmy.world avatar

I mean, my laptop is a Dell from 2018-2019 with a 8th gen Core i5, so I don’t think is too “new” 🤷🏻‍♂️.

lemann,

That’s surprising. Dell should have good Linux driver support, seeing as they offer Ubuntu pre-installed in some markets.

Saying that, we have work issued Dell Precision mobile workstations and there are constantly hardware and driver issues under Windows, where you’d expect things to work just fine…

  • the internal microphone not working (handy for meetings!)
  • the 3.5mm combo jack not working (ah, great, no backup for when the internal microphone stops working)
  • the battery handshake failing, causing the machine to not charge, stay stuck in a low performance mode, and constantly pop up Windows notifications saying the battery is not genuine
  • the presence sensor locking the laptop while you’re literally working it

Now I use a USB headset, disabled the presence sensor, and reboot the laptop repeatedly until the battery is detected as genuine

callyral,
@callyral@pawb.social avatar

i use void linux and apparently it is a stable rolling release

spookedbyroaches,

Yeah and I’m a small-headed Arch user

bruhduh,
@bruhduh@lemmy.world avatar

Are you me?) P.s been daily driving arch for 5 years and now switching back to Debian

NateNate60,

Well, Debian Sid is rolling-release if that’s your liking

rikudou,

Can I talk about our lord and saviour, NixOS, in these parts?

blotz,
@blotz@lemmy.world avatar

I’ve tried nix and its just not it. Its got cool ideas tho!

PlasterAnalyst,

I use BSD BTW

fl42v,

Freebsd be like: where getopt

Amends1782,

Specifically, OpenBasedSecureDistro, with a desktop environment, for gaming

Please send help, thanks

aard,
@aard@kyu.de avatar

There’s the old saying that Debian is available in three flavours: Stale, rusting and broken.

possiblylinux127,

All of which are quite stable.

Phrodo_00,

Stable in the distro context refers to how often packages change. Sid (which is the one that’s broken in that) is not that. The other 2 are stable in that sense, but older software can sometimes be shaky on newer hardware.

BlueBockser,

broken saying

FTFY

Apeiron,

Arch + debian = opensuse TW

warmaster,

Explain

sirico,
@sirico@feddit.uk avatar

well tested rolling, you literally have the arch update wall of terminal every week but it is a bit more stable with great tools like snapper should anything go a bit wrong

Apeiron,

You will have a rolling release distribution similar to Arch, with the newest and freshest updates. However, it will be more stable than Arch because it undergoes thorough testing to ensure everything works fine. Additionally, there is a new tested stable update available almost every day. I recommend doing a little research about openSUSE Tumbleweed. It will help you stop distro hopping and allow you to focus more on productivity rather than fixing bugs (like with Arch).

Goatastic,

I have been running Manjaro(I know not arch) and have been happy with it. But I will definitely give tumbleweed a look. I like knowing I have the latest versions of things.

hersh,

I would advise against any rolling distro if you use Nvidia drivers and CUDA. When I was using Tumbleweed it kept breaking with kernel updates. This was common in the forums. I had to pin my kernel to an older version to fix it. It was not ideal.

I’ve come full circle back to Debian stable. I’m sure at some point I’ll need a newer package and be frustrated again. When the time comes, perhaps I’ll try distrobox if I can’t easily backport it.

turbowafflz,

I love opensuse and I’ve switched back to it from arch on two of my three computers, but the one thing I miss is the speed of pacman. I’ll be working on something with an arch user and need to install something new and by the time zypper has refreshed the repos, pacman will have completely finished the whole installation

JoMiran, (edited )
@JoMiran@lemmy.ml avatar

I started my Linux journey in the 90’s with Red Hat Halloween. I’m sick and tired of troubleshooting and Debian based distros have been fully painless. Those of you learning your craft should absolutely try to manage things like Arch, just leave my old and tired ass be and I’ll sit here with my old kernel and cheer you on.

RegalPotoo,
@RegalPotoo@lemmy.world avatar

Yup - if your goal is to use Linux to learn how Linux works and how it’s all put together then Arch is awesome. If you’ve got stuff to do and Linux is a tool to reach another goal, not so much. I like my tools to be stable, reliable and predictable.

avidamoeba,
@avidamoeba@lemmy.ca avatar

Whenever you get bored:


<span style="color:#323232;">~$ sudo docker run -it --rm archlinux bash
</span><span style="color:#323232;">[root@5452124778b3 /]# pacman -Syu
</span><span style="color:#323232;">:: Synchronizing package databases...
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> core downloading...
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> extra downloading...
</span><span style="color:#323232;">:: Starting full system upgrade...
</span><span style="color:#323232;">resolving dependencies...
</span>
possiblylinux127,

Its easier to use distrobox with podman

avidamoeba,
@avidamoeba@lemmy.ca avatar

Could be. I know docker and this looked like a nail.

anonono,

this coming from someone who used podman for years for hours for development every day.

podman is cancer, it’s way better to use docker rootless.

podman will break if you sneeze at it, and the only recourse you will find in github is to podman system reset which stinks of bad programming.

docker rootless never breaks, podman may die if you cancel a download because the devs were either inexperienced or bad and instead of protecting the state with atomic filesystem operations they leave dirty files in working directories which make it fail in random and unexpected ways.

possiblylinux127,

I’ve personally only had good experiences with podman

Duke_Nukem_1990,

Wait…is that all it takes to install arch in a docker container? Does this include a GUI or is it for terminal Haxxorz only?

deathmetal27,

Terminal only. Though in theory you should be able to expose a port to access an X or Wayland session remotely to use a GUI, but I haven’t tried this.

avidamoeba,
@avidamoeba@lemmy.ca avatar

And yes.

CeeBee,

You’re basically describing DistroBox, which does exactly that. It’s amazing.

avidamoeba,
@avidamoeba@lemmy.ca avatar

Yes. It even pulls the image for you if you don’t have it.

teft,
@teft@startrek.website avatar

Hand starts shaking when he can’t update once an hour.

ritchie,
@ritchie@lemmy.world avatar

His palms are sweaty

badbytes,

Knees weak, as update not ready.

teft,
@teft@startrek.website avatar

There’s vomit in this cron job already

DahGangalang,

Code Spaghetti

Flumsy,

He’s nervous. But on the surface he looks calm and ready to retry.

Magister,
@Magister@lemmy.world avatar

Use MX Linux instead, it’s all the power of Debian with up to date everything.

Anonymo,

What is updated on it? KDE?

Lime66,

It is? I don’t see a mention of that on there website

Magister,
@Magister@lemmy.world avatar

Well, I have kernel 6.5.10, latest Firefox (in .deb) etc

yote_zip, (edited )
@yote_zip@pawb.social avatar

As a Debian user I agree with Loius Rossmann’s sage advice.

Edit: (make sure you enable unattended security upgrades at least so you can pretend that you only update once every few months)

Ibaudia,
@Ibaudia@lemmy.world avatar

That made me laugh at my work desk ty

NoXzema,

For those missing context, Rossman uses a software that helps view the layout of Mac hardware… and it breaks literally constantly.

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