LemmyLaLibre,

What was the moment you realized mr phil was a quack? For me it was when he had a man on the show who hit back after his wife assaulted him, and phil threatened to have the man arrested on stage if he got up and left while he was being humiliated and berated with things like: “there’s no reason to ever hit a woman, not even if she has a knife” and “you’re a coward” and “you’re scum”.

That man was a victim of long term domestic violence and snapped, but instead of helping him phil exploited him in his moment of weakness.

bob_wiley,

Every doctor that becomes famous via Oprah is a quack.

Saneless, (edited )

Anyone who ran these shows ever is an ass. Talk shows were basically the precursor to annoying YouTubers today

_cerpin_taxt_,

Oprah is the Queen Mega Cunt of television. Hope that bitch rots for all of the harm she’s done to society.

Therealgoodjanet,

While I agree with you he is scum of the earth, he does hold a doctorate, meaning he can call himself doctor.

Exposing people for what they are is most effective if there is nothing in your story that people can use as “See? You’re wrong about this one thing so you must be wrong about everything”.

He is scum and exploits people, and I wish he would just go away.

TotallyNotSpez, (edited )

EDIT: nvm, I was wrong.

Therealgoodjanet,

Can you give me a source for that? I want to believe you but as far as I could find he does have a doctorate, and was a practicing therapist until 2006.

ApathyTree,
@ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Yuck, can you imagine having him as your therapist?

I’ve seen some bad therapists over the years, but nobody would hold a candle to this shitbag.

HikingVet,

You can be qualified and a quack. Look at Peterson.

Therealgoodjanet,

Of course! I didn’t mean to say he’s not a quack, because he sure is.

hoodatninja,
hoodatninja avatar

He actually hasn’t had a license for decades so he’s not qualified either lol

CorruptBuddha,

That’s complete baloney.

hoodatninja,
hoodatninja avatar

It’s right there on his Wikipedia but ok. Admittedly it’s 17 years give or take so yeah technically not decades plural.

CorruptBuddha,

Either you’re misinformed or just straight up lying.

For most of his career, Peterson maintained a clinical practice, seeing about 20 people a week. He has been active on social media, and in September 2016 he released a series of videos in which he criticized Bill C-16.[22][53][54] As a result of new projects, he decided to put the clinical practice on hold in 2017[55] and temporarily stopped teaching as of 2018.[19][17] In February 2018, Peterson entered into a promise with the College of Psychologists of Ontario after a professional misconduct complaint about his communication and the boundaries he sets with his patients. The college did not consider a full disciplinary hearing necessary and accepted Peterson entering into a three-month undertaking to work on prioritizing his practice and improving his patient communications. Peterson had no prior disciplinary punishments or restrictions on his clinical practice.[56][57] In 2023, the college ordered Peterson to undergo social media communication coaching, following concerns about his public comments.[58][59] Peterson denied any wrongdoing and filed for judicial review.[60][58]

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordan_Peterson

hoodatninja,
hoodatninja avatar

I am talking about Dr. Phil. I understand why that wasn’t clear but let’s maybe slow your roll a bit here.

Peterson is just a bad person lol

CorruptBuddha,

I understand why that wasn’t clear but let’s maybe slow your roll a bit here.

Why? Did I hurt your feelings or something?

Dubious_Fart,

You just wanna swing, with zero fucks given to where or why, huh?

CorruptBuddha,

Hey! I softballed my original comment with the word baloney. I just don’t like authority.

hoodatninja,
hoodatninja avatar

Yet you’re picking a fight over whether or not someone has formal qualifications…

CorruptBuddha,

lol! That is ironic.

Anyways lol, it’s wasn’t about the qualifications themselves, I just thought you were full of shit.

hoodatninja,
hoodatninja avatar

Glad that was cleared up I guess lol

hoodatninja,
hoodatninja avatar

No…? You’re just being incredibly aggressive over what is clearly a misunderstanding.

Given this response though I imagine we have plenty to disagree over, unfortunately.

CorruptBuddha,

Dude from my perspective you were lying about the details or misunderstood them, so that’s what I said. You consider THAT “incredibly aggressive”?

As far as I’m concerned I don’t have to adjust my tone for your sake. I’m perfectly happy with the way I’ve chosen to express myself.

hoodatninja,
hoodatninja avatar

I was talking about Dr. Phil. I was correct about what I said. A misunderstanding made you come to the (passionate) defense of Jordan Peterson, someone I was not talking about but I understand why you thought so. The correct response is “ah my bad.” Not “well if you had said what I thought you did I’d be right.” Feel free to keep doing what you’re doing though I guess. I’m sorry you feel the need to keep coming after me despite my identifying the issue lol

CorruptBuddha,

Slow your roll, it was just a misunderstanding.

hoodatninja,
hoodatninja avatar

I get what you’re trying to do man but frankly I’m not interested in this pissing match. Have a good one.

CorruptBuddha,

Tapping out like a true gentleman. Respect.

Tar_alcaran,

I mean, i have a doctorate, but like Phil, I can absolutely not practice psychology. (In my case it’s because the doctorate is in Chemistry, not because I’m a quack and/or unethical scumbag)

NekoRogue,

For me, it was when he had a woman on his show who had gained a significant amount of weight, after being sexually assaulted multiple times, in order to appear more unattractive to men. Dr. Phil told her to lose weight, and to stop “letting men use your body as a playground.”

jubilationtcornpone,

That’s some dumbass sexist bullshit which was/is wrong on so many levels. First, it degrades women by equating them all with “delicate flowers” who are supposedly incapable of doing any damage. Second, it implies that domestic violence is acceptable, or at least not as serious, if a woman is the abuser and that a man, supposing the victim is a man, should not be allowed to defend himself. For normal people, not to mention someone who sells himself as a sort of therapist, that’s some fucked up logic.

As a general rule, nobody should be hitting anyone else. Gender is irrelevant. If someone is assaulting you, and you are unable to get away, then you should absolutely fight back until your attacker stops attacking you. Once again, gender is irrelevant. The fact that “Dr.” Phil’s tiny little brain can’t comprehend that is simply mind boggling.

hoodatninja,
hoodatninja avatar

As a general rule, nobody should be hitting anyone else.

Yes

Gender is irrelevant.

Well yes and no. Gender is a social construct. You probably mean “(biological) sex,” which is very relevant.

Dubious_Fart,

And you know Frauter Phil has hit a woman or two in your day.

Someone that so far up their own ass and full of arrogance? Theres no way he hasnt hit a woman, and under far less justifiable causes than self defense during domestic abuse.

ArugulaZ,
ArugulaZ avatar

I've gotta admit, that guy coming on the show with a Dr. Phil haircut is pretty hilarious. Take that, Thick Drawl McGraw!

I'm glad both Dr. Fool and that other guy who pushes super fruits and looks like Sinestro both lost their shows. Couldn't have happened to a more deserving couple of tools.

sweetviolentblush,
@sweetviolentblush@sh.itjust.works avatar

Sinestro lol, if you’re talking about Dr. Oz he’s unfortunately jumped into politics. Take a wild guess which party

Dubious_Fart,

I’unno, last I heard he’s failed everything hes tried. Threw away fame and fortune as a doctor, to be a piece of shit bigot supporting asshole that sells pseudoscience cancer exploitation products.

stu,

Here’s the video of it if anybody hasn’t seen it yet.

theneverfox,
@theneverfox@pawb.social avatar

But if you do that, even if you see few or no patients, you have to get malpractice insurance

It has something called a tail clause, so once you retire from medicine you’re covered from any former patients - if you keep your license, you have to keep paying

ChickenButt,

When we come in ya gonna hear diss.

danc4498,

I’ve always heard he was a real doctor, but had to give up his license in order to do the show.

Ghostalmedia,
@Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah, he stopped renewing his license in 2006. He could’ve probably kept it. I know some non practicing doctors that still keep their license renewed.

danc4498,

I know I would. Just for the flex

Ghostalmedia,
@Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world avatar

Most of the retired folks I know with their licenses just want to write scripts without having to go through someone else. 😆

Duamerthrax,

Not sure that’s what “doctor heal thyself” is supposed to mean.

Ghostalmedia,
@Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world avatar

It’s mostly for family. If someone in the house gets sick, you can provide them direct care.

BonfireOvDreams,
@BonfireOvDreams@lemmy.world avatar

It’s not exactly “the same thing” though. One encourages direct violence. Dr. Phil presumably does not. One component of exploitation being comparable is not the same as totally equal.

chuckleslord,

He often sent kids to “trouble teen” camps, so he definitely encouraged direct violence.

dm_me_yabooty,

They’re both cunts who exploit people during their worst times.

Diabolo96,

Driving a truck is dangerous ? It’s dangerous yes but to the people they may hit not them…

Ghyste,

Dr Phil is unfortunately a real doctor.

But a badly cropped screenshot of a tweet isn’t a meme.

SpaceNoodle,

Any element of culture that passes from one person to another is a meme.

Ghyste,

Internet memes have always been a specific format. Quit with dictionary definition bullshit. You don’t get comic strips and Tumblr screenshots when you search for “meme” on Google.

Quit excusing lazy, no effort crap dumped into one community when communities for comics, unedited screenshots and photos, and all of the other junk posts that are dumped here for mindless upvotes instead of spreading content to several communities that need more engagement.

SpaceNoodle,

You think the Internet was invented in 2010, don’t you.

Ghyste,

I’m willing to bet I’ve been on the internet longer than you’ve been alive. Piss off.

voidMainVoid,

Internet memes don’t have a format. What’s the format of “All your base are belong to us”? Or Longcat? Or that crazy frog dance?

Ghyste,

Sure they don’t… Enjoy your comic strips, buddy.

altima_neo,
@altima_neo@lemmy.zip avatar

And isn’t this old and irrelevant anyway?

saegiru,
@saegiru@lemmy.world avatar

I always find it weird when people repost this acting as if Dr. Phil wouldn’t have been in on the whole situation. It’s not like the show was aired live, or that the guy wouldn’t have had to been approved to go out on stage dressed like that by likely at least a dozen people, and Phil would definitely have been told in advance. So the guy was allowed to do it by Phil and the staff, and then the episode was edited and allowed to air, all for ratings.

jackpot,
@jackpot@lemmy.ml avatar

could also be angry staffers like what happened to james cordon when he couldnt even name a camera man after being asked (or maybe that was live idk but his staffers wrote the question). maybe too many witnesses saw it and not airing it would look shit or the network demanded an episode

Dubious_Fart,

I need more details about this, please. Got anymore info/links/etc?

jackpot,
@jackpot@lemmy.ml avatar

huh? abput james?

Dubious_Fart,

No, about the catastrophic effects of an Brazilian butterflies fluttering wings on the tornados in Texas. /s

Duamerthrax,

His producer either 1. didnt care, 2. thought dr. Phil looked like the winner, or 3. hated dr. Phil.

Photographer,

Or 4. Loved ratings

Novman,

Television is a big show. News too.

Dubious_Fart,

Need to get the fairness doctrine back in place and start forcibly putting some integrity back in TV journalism.

Therealgoodjanet,

While I agree with you he is scum of the earth, he does hold a doctorate, meaning he can call himself doctor.

Exposing people for what they are is most effective if there is nothing in your story that people can use as “See? You’re wrong about this one thing so you must be wrong about everything”.

He is scum and exploits people, and I wish he would just go away.

cnutfeelmylegs,
cnutfeelmylegs avatar

Only scumbags who aren't medical vet or other real doctors use the title Dr for themselves

Its a cnut move for a cnut guy

ImplyingImplications,

He can call himself “doctor” but he can’t practice because the regulatory authorities took away his licence to practice specifically because his show breaks so many of their rules. Even Dr. Oz never got his licence pulled.

cnutfeelmylegs,
cnutfeelmylegs avatar

Doctor whatever hes still officially a giant cnut

Only cnut scumbags call themselves Dr if they aren't real doctors

gears,

It was pulled or he didn’t have it renewed?

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