NENathaniel,
@NENathaniel@lemmy.ca avatar

Year-Month-Day best everywhere

KTVX94,

Facts. The sorting system for files inevitably makes YYYY-MM-DD more optimal. I tried to resist but it doesn’t work.

uncertainty,

To the commenters justifying the written form MM-DD-YYYY on the basis of preferring to say the name of the month followed by the day (which the written numerical sequence does not preclude you from doing). If someone were to say something like “the time is a quarter to eleven” do you think they would have a case for writing it 45:10? And if so, how would you deal with the ambiguity of “ten past ten” if they wrote it 10:10 instead of 10:10?

frontporchtreat,

This guy’s throwing wrenches into engines

kryostar,
@kryostar@lemmy.world avatar

This is big pp idea and I like it.

Tekchip,
@Tekchip@lemmy.world avatar

Lot of talk of numerics only. The problem there is knowing what format the information is in since clearly there are 3 possibilities. Without context and during certain parts of the month you’re hosed. Best to remove ambiguity and go with the alpha numeric format.

DD MMM YY (or alternatively YYYY)

11 Aug 2023

Ambiguity gone.

cognitive,

The second reason why yyyy-MM-dd is the correct way to write days (beside being sortable by default) is because even Americans doesn't have any similar format that it can be confused with.

I learned this in my first half year as a programmer I think, somewhere well over a decade back and so far it seems that guy was right.

Tekchip,
@Tekchip@lemmy.world avatar

As monsterous as it is yyyy-mm-dd could also be misconstrued by said unfortunate Americans as yyyy-dd-mm because…well…yeah. As noted elsewhere this dd mmm yyyy format also works nicely in written and verbal communication as 12th of august where no one ever is going to write or speak to each other twenty twenty three august twelfth. So again, more universal and less ambiguous.

blitzen,

23 Aug 23. Ya, no ambiguity. /s

2023-08-23 is the way.

thawed_caveman,

Any date format can be unambiguous as long as it’s the one that everyone agrees on, and all date formats will be ambiguous as long as we have several in use.

I kinda gave up, nowadays when i write a date to someone i specify the date format. Like i will send “01/05/2024 (DD/MM/YYYY)” because it’s the only way to be sure

ramplay,

There’s no amibuity with year first and done properly like YYYY-MM-DD.

Your reasoning is that the ambiguity exists due to using numbers. The ambiguity is only for 2/3 numerical methods

Tekchip,
@Tekchip@lemmy.world avatar

As monstrous as it is yyyy-mm-dd could also be misconstrued by said unfortunate Americans as yyyy-dd-mm because…well…yeah. As noted elsewhere this dd mmm yyyy format also works nicely in written and verbal communication as 12th of august where no one ever is going to write or speak to each other twenty twenty three august twelfth. So again, more universal and less ambiguous.

rar,

Problem is that languages get in the way. Some are pretty similar like 15 ago (Spanish) being 15 Aug (English), but 1 ene (Spanish) aren’t that similar to 1 Jan (English).

And for the usual “But English is used everwhere! I live in X!” crowd: NO, it isn’t. Not everything you see as an “expat” is the same as the actual locals with their own language.

Satanic_Mills,

10 Aug 2023 is the superior format for handwritten dates, no misinterpretation of the date itself or an improperly written divider.

Crashumbc,

I don’t just to piss you off, yes you …

alsaaas,
@alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

better than the absolutely deranged MM/DD/YYYY and imo the best when it comes to international communication

Ilflish,

I’ve been told " You don’t say 6th June, do you?" too many times

NotYourSocialWorker,

The amusing thing is that in Swedish you definitely do. Or actually “6:e juni”.

yata,

Even Americans does as well: “4th of July”.

luciferofastora,

Germany too

sunbeam60,

In the U.K. we do all the same. Sixth of June.

Eylrid,

In the US it’s about 50/50 sixth of June and June sixth.

gibs,

How the fuck does second largest to smallest to largest make any kind of sense?

Xttweaponttx,

It warms my heart to see so many comments in the camp of “I use it everywhere”. Absolutely same here. You are my people.

GamingChairModel,

You never know when something might need to become a filename, so you might as well just use ISO 8601 for everything.

luciferofastora,

Together with hh:mm(:ss) for times and +hh:mm for timezones. Don’t make me deal with that 12am/pm bullshit that doesn’t make any sense, and don’t make make me look up just what the time difference is between CEST and IST. Just give me the offsets +02:00 and +05:30, and I can calculate that my local time of 06:55+03:30=10:25 in India.

TheMadnessKing,

Makes a lot more sense as it gets easy to sort files that way.

CurlyMoustache,
@CurlyMoustache@lemmy.world avatar

What? I haven’t been sorting by file names since mid 00s. Every file system I’ve used has the ability to sort by whatever I like

Isoprenoid,

What if you create a file that has information related to a date that the file wasn’t created on?

For example, you write a report about an event that happened two weeks ago. Now the created and modified metadata is tied to today’s date, not the date two weeks ago.

CurlyMoustache,
@CurlyMoustache@lemmy.world avatar

I usually give file names a human readable name like “report on the event 27.7.1994”. Makes it easier for other people to understand if I need to pass the file on.

For images I keep the original file name when I store it in a database (Capture one/Lightroom/etc) in folders by the year and then month they are taken: 2023 --> 08 and so on. If I eksport images for a specific project, I will keep the original file name but add project name and give it a number based on sequence. Everything else is in the metadata

jecxjo,
@jecxjo@midwest.social avatar

I always have written my dates this way. It’s one of those things that always seemed weird to me and then when I realize that only in America do we write our dates MM-DD-YYYY /facepalm

Keeslinp,

ISO dates are the goat because they string compare correctly. Just yesterday I shaved 2 full seconds off a page transition by removing a date parse in the middle of a hot sorting loop. Everything should use ISO in my opinion.

nickwitha_k, (edited )

Maybe we should form some sort of organization, on an international stage, dedicated to creating and maintaining such standards.

sverit,

Excuse me?! ISO 8601 >> *

varjen,

ISO 8601 is always the correct way to format dates.

Zeragamba,
@Zeragamba@lemmy.ca avatar

ISO 8601 is the only correct way to format timestamps.

ydieb,

The intersection of iso8601 and rfc3339.

ijmacd.github.io/rfc3339-iso8601/

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