Amsterdam testing system that can remotely slow e-bikes down

cross-posted from: lemmy.world/post/13081471

Alrighty,

So your system knows the exact situation and still is slowing down my bike, just at the moment I need to accelerate to avoid being overrun by that large truck heading into me.

How stupid are these folks? We’ve got rules, when people don’t follow those rules, you fine them. Case closed.

No system to prevent a bike speeding, teach people to obey the law.

kciwsnurb,

This actually sounds like a good proposal. Also, I disagree with the quoted comment. A system solution is miles better than regulation for the simple fact that people WILL break rules, no matter how you teach them not to.

yessikg,
@yessikg@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Do this to cars first and then we’ll talk

FartsWithAnAccent,
@FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world avatar

I had the same thought, it turns out the tech to do this has existed for a long, long time but it’s never been implemented.

hex_m_hell,

From a purely technical perspective, it should be possible to do this with an ODB-II device with GPS and BTLE. You could send everyone with a car the option to buy a device and register the device to associate it with their license plate.

Put a couple of plate readers around vulnerable areas with BTLE and make sure that the plate that’s being read has an associated device. Any time one doesn’t traffic enforcement comes in. You could even connect it to retracting bollards to make it physically impossible to enter vulnerable areas without a car that has a registered remote controlled governor.

Even from a security perspective it’s not super hard to design, assuming the city is the trusted authority.

From an economic perspective, most of the hardware could be paid for by car owners since they would be buying a device that acts as a permit to enter the city. A device could additionally require a subscription, which would pay for the yearly costs of the server infrastructure and maintenance.

Once you had such a system in place, it would be pretty easy to even charge people tolls for entering sensitive areas. Hell, you could probably replace most of parking enforcement by just charging people a constant rate for being in the city. You could even use GPS to charge different rates in different parking zones.

FartsWithAnAccent,
@FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world avatar

They can just add it to the heated seat subscription!

hex_m_hell,

Lol, yeah. I mean ODB-II would only be needed for older cars. New cars are all backdoored. It’s probably technically feasible with no modification on anything made in the last couple of years… And if you’re in the city when your city pass expires they can just lock you out and call the city to tow you, just like if you skip a loan payment.

AnUnusualRelic,
@AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world avatar

FWIW, e-bikes sold in France (possibly in Europe, not sure) only have assistance up to 25 km/h. Past that the engine turns off.

You can get devices without this limitation however they no longer qualify as bikes, they’re classified as mopeds/motorcycles and need a license plate and a proper registration. The same goes for those “pretend bikes” that actually go without the rider pedalling.

However the law isn’t really enforced at the moment as it’s not very easy to tell them apart at a glance and the owners will of course do everything to disguise the real nature of their rides (same problem with the scooters, which also have a speed limit). Also the police are lazy, because they’re the police.

Zpiritual,

So your system knows the exact situation and still is slowing down my bike, just at the moment I need to accelerate to avoid being overrun by that large truck heading into me.

This look like a problem with trucks, no? Maybe we should have a system to prevent trucks from running over people.

AnUnusualRelic,
@AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world avatar

Just make them higher, then they’ll safely go overhead.

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