stux,
@stux@mstdn.social avatar

I still don't understand why classifies "driver updates" as optional :blobfox_explode:

whaat

meshaiman,
@meshaiman@mstdn.social avatar

@stux And today is Tuesday.

BiggestBulb,
@BiggestBulb@mstdn.social avatar

@stux I'm starting to think Microsoft doesn't actually care if their OS works - after all, if it's busted you're supposed to buy another Windows license haha

Mixtape,
@Mixtape@mstdn.social avatar

@stux those updates are there in case of issues drivers run over Windows Update

stux,
@stux@mstdn.social avatar

@Mixtape I think the whole update drivers thing is so messy since every brand has it's own way that often sucks

Plus there are too many "spamish" programs out there that happily take payment for "updating" drivers

Mixtape,
@Mixtape@mstdn.social avatar

@stux Windows entire software update system is a total mess.

Windows Update, Windows Update for anything else than Windows itself, Drivers over Windows Update, Edge has its own updater, Microsoft Store runs updates, then dozends of third parties that have updaters running in the background 24/7 and so on and so on.....

Linux always did this way better with package managers but even there we now got Snaps, Flatpaks, AppImages, Packages, Web apps......

stux,
@stux@mstdn.social avatar

Kinda funny :flan_laugh:

General advice for Windows :windows:

"just don't update if stuff works"

I get it but that's just such a bad design :catblush:

lauren,
@lauren@mastodon.laurenweinstein.org avatar

@stux For some definition of "if stuff works." Unfortunately, in a security context, some of the worst exploits do their damage while stuff seems to be "working". So, yeah, bad design.

stux,
@stux@mstdn.social avatar

@lauren That!

Plus, i generally love updates! often means imporvement, fixes and most important indeed security

Seltsam,
@Seltsam@mastodon.la avatar

@stux Not so funny, but good advice: deactivate fastboot. Might spare you some nightmares.

stux,
@stux@mstdn.social avatar

@Seltsam Already have! 💪

narpoleptic,
@narpoleptic@masto.ai avatar

@stux it's a good while since I last dared try it, but often as not a driver update via Windows Update would render your display adapter, network card or wireless adapter inoperable, possibly with no easy rollback option beyond 'boot into recovery mode and manually install the correct driver from there' (even more fun if it's a work device!). I think things have improved somewhat with Windows 10 and beyond, but I remain scarred and wary from past experience...

stux,
@stux@mstdn.social avatar

@narpoleptic woah that's terrible! That's just super bad design, omg :blobcatgiggle:

Christopher,
@Christopher@mastodon.coffee avatar

@stux

Sometimes the update driver might make your machine worse off than before the upgrade.

Because....Microsoft! :microsoft:

stux,
@stux@mstdn.social avatar

@Christopher Such a reversed world :bloblaugh:

Oh windowwwwws

nektworks,
@nektworks@wetdry.world avatar

@stux Sometimes, an optional driver update is a downgrade from the version installed on your system, that’s there just in case.

stux,
@stux@mstdn.social avatar

@nektworks Hmmm, but that wouldn't is my guess right? If current V is higher then available for example 🤔 :blobcatgiggle:

Altough it's Microsoft so anything goes i guess

guigsy,
@guigsy@mstdn.social avatar

@stux drivers are normally for a whole family of devices. The new driver might just be adding more devices. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.... unless it's a security patch!

ranx,
@ranx@mastodon.social avatar

@stux if you were a windows user you would know 😄

stux,
@stux@mstdn.social avatar

@ranx SURPRISE! :windows:

That's why i complain :blobcatgiggle:

My gamedev machine is a windows machine 😉

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