wowitsverycool, 11 months ago

The biggest loss is not having the mugshot. Imagine the thumbnails!

fubo, 11 months ago

The news I want is increasingly local. City council stuff, crime, policing, road closures, public transit issues, events, new businesses & organizations, "area man grows amusingly-shaped potato", "local landlord fined for hosting illegal pony fights in tenants' attic".

JeSuisUnHombre, 11 months ago

Just want to say how good this post looks. Easy to follow updates with links and videos embedded. Great job lemmy!

GONADS125, 11 months ago

Was just thinking this looks so much better than reddit...

RomeCallen, 11 months ago

i dont know if it looks that much better to me but it looks about the same, which is good for me personally

im just happy its workin to some degree at all. im kinda psyched on my first day poking around here

Deft, 11 months ago

actually so incredibly nice

Kaiser, 11 months ago

All I know is that if I were indicted with the same charges, I’d be sitting in prison awaiting trial

papertowels, 11 months ago

You're not the only one who thinks that

Obviously, it’s different because of who the defendant is. But I see it in kind of an opposite way: If Trump were anyone other than a former president, he would not have been given the luxury of a summons to appear in court. There would be a team of armed FBI agents outside his door at 6:30 in the morning, he would have been arrested and the government would be immediately moving to detain. So the idea that he’s being treated differently is true – but not from the way his supporters seem to be arguing.

ArtZuron, 11 months ago

You probably wouldn't even get that far honestly. Normal people don't really have a chance in these sorts of cases.

Chainweasel, 11 months ago

If any of us were indicted on even 1 of his 37 charges we would have been rotting in federal prison for the past 3 years

TechyDad, 11 months ago

Trump keeps claiming that he's being treated differently and he's right, but not in the way he means it. He's not being persecuted. He's being treated with exceptionally soft kid gloves.

He was given multiple chances to return the stuff he took. He was asked politely before a subpoena was issued. He was given time between the subpoena and the raid to turn everything over. After the raid, he wasn't immediately arrested and tossed behind bars. They even allowed him to come in and skip some procedures like being handcuffed and getting his mugshot taken.

He's been given way more considerations than anyone else who committed even remotely the number of infractions that he committed would get.

If Trump wants to not get treated differently, I'm all for it. Arrest him and toss him in jail while he waits for his trial. As a bonus, suddenly his usual tactic of delay, delay, delay won't be as attractive.

mantisteabaggin, 11 months ago

It makes me sick seeing 10x the amount of cops as were present for Jan 6 there just to protect this fucking dipshit. There’s something really wrong about that.

antec_30k, 11 months ago

They're there to protect the courthouse from the same people who were at Jan 6.

marco, 11 months ago

They prevented the Capitol Police from getting sufficient number of people and equipment without permission from Trump and he never gave it, if I remember correctly.

merc, 11 months ago

The Average US President has been indicted 1.54 times. (Trump is the only US president to ever be indicted.)

Shamelessly stolen from someone on Mastodon (unfortunately I can't find the toot).

VoterFrog, 11 months ago

How does the math on that work? Number of indictments / number of Presidents = 1.54 would imply that the number of times Trump has been indicted exceeds the number of Presidents the U.S. has had and that ain't right...

merc, 11 months ago

Sure it is, you're forgetting the felony indictments in New York.

reverendsteveii, 11 months ago

yeah, I think comment OP got number of times indicted (I think twice so far?) confused with number of charges (37 or so for this indictment, more in the past and more forthcoming)

flak, 11 months ago (edited 11 months ago)

The actual average is 0.043*

2 indictments / 46 presidents

MrMuz, 11 months ago

I think a 0 is missing in there; 2 / 46 = 0.043

flak, 11 months ago

Yep, I can’t type apparently.

CmdrShepard, 11 months ago

Or 23 presidents per presidential indictment.

SturgiesYrFase, 11 months ago

It's 71 individual indictments, and they're all trump. So 71÷46=1.5434782609

MrMuz, 11 months ago

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/ff1d8527-037f-491b-8f47-d4a1f6d7967a.png

kn33, 11 months ago

The judge said that former President Trump could have no contact with any witnesses in the case

ABC commenting on this being a big deal because that's basically his whole campaign team lol

dingus, 11 months ago

If what's already transpired is any measure, there's literally no way Trump can prevent himself from breaking the very, very few rules they have given him to follow in this case. It's part of why he is struggling to find new legal counsel, because very few want to represent someone who does so many self-incriminating things on the daily.

reverendsteveii, 11 months ago

he wanted to give some classified information, but instead of just handing them a document and saying "here's that thing you asked for" they literally have him on tape saying 'this is classified, I know it is, I could have declassified it but I didn't, now I can't, it's totally classified and I'm not supposed to have it and I'm definitely not supposed to show it to you so don't look too close'. Dude is terminally desperate to feel cool and important and it's quite literally gonna land him in federal prison.

thefloatingpoint, 11 months ago

Trump has been released without any travel conditions, as he is reportedly not a flight risk per the judge.

I am not sure about that part…

Dr_Cog, 11 months ago

He constantly has a secret service detail. He isn't a flight risk because he can't even try without being noticed.

I suppose he could run into his private jet and take off before they catch him, but I just can't see the man running very far or fast

atfergs, 11 months ago

Does the SS have any reason to control him? I thought they just followed him around like puppies.

Xylinna, 11 months ago

I fully support lostlemmings!

danc4498, 11 months ago

Now you're the lost lemming

MentallyExhausted, 11 months ago

No mugshot, no handcuffs? Very disappointing, I needed those pictures to troll right wing nut jobs with.

wbl, 11 months ago

I think it’s better this way. Less likely to be painted as a victim of persecution.

breadsmasher, 11 months ago

maga is just the noise the average conservative makes when gargling tr*mps sac

dingus, 11 months ago

The gears of justice turn so slowly when you're part of the political class.

They gave him so many chances to undo what he did and walk away without being charged.

It's a travesty it's taken this long to just get here, and even further travesty that he will likely to continue to be accommodated as he tries to slow things down and run out the clock, hoping to win the election before conviction, so he can pardon himself.

hadesflames, 11 months ago

It's incredible the level of downright braindead stupid you'd have to be to protest this. Like wtf is going on in these morons minds?

"Oh no an extremely powerful rich person is being arrested! What a travesty! Rich people are supposed to be above the law only us plebs should have to face consequences for our actions!! Let's riot people!!!"

BeMoreCareful, 11 months ago

To play the Devil's advocate: If you really believed the election was stolen, you'd sort of have to do something about it. It be a patriotic duty.

Imagine the timeline with Gore as POTUS

VoterFrog, 11 months ago

Sure, and that's what's so dangerous about Trump and the Republican party's rhetoric surrounding the election. But you also have a patriotic duty to start with some actual solid evidence of the election being stolen. You don't get absolved for playing out a "save the country" fantasy if it's clearly based on, well, a fantasy.

EthicalAI, 11 months ago

Exactly. Truth is the main factor that separates good from evil.

itty53, 11 months ago

What we outside fail to realize is these people live in a wholly different reality.

I haven't watched television with any ads in years. So when I go to a hotel and I'm lounging watching cable and seeing commercials it is jarring just what a different world it is from what I remember before. And for people who never left it, it isn't jarring at all. It's their normal.

Now imagine you only watched Fox or OANN. It's your very reality that's twisted all askew. It's hard to hold that against many of the MAGA crowd and speaks to just how influential misinformation campaigns can be.

4th_Times_A_Charm, 11 months ago

So when I go to a hotel and I'm lounging watching cable

Get yourself a Roku stick. Set it up at home and log into your streaming apps. Now any time you're in a hotel you can just plug it into your hotel tv and bam, bye bye shitty hotel tv.

itty53, 11 months ago

If I have to sit in the room for long enough I'm not watching TV anyway, I'm on my laptop or steam deck. Otherwise if I'm in a hotel room I'm somewhere I'd rather be out and about doing things anyway. Besides, as much as society's reality is skewed by the inundation of commercials, so too is mine by not experiencing it like everyone else. So I try to, from time to time. See what the other side is seeing.

OniiFam, 11 months ago

https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/pictrs/image/THBjNdj7w7.png

cryball, 11 months ago

I'm not going to say I wouldn't like to live the years 2000 - 2015 again. However one can't deny currently we are living an incredibly content rich set of years. Not saying that things are going great, but a lot of stuff is happening at once.

Stoneykins, 11 months ago

I would love to see him in a regular prison like he deserves, but can a person with secret service protection even get anything worse than house arrest? I've been unable to find clarifying information on this.

What he deserves is to not have special treatment anymore, but who knows how it will happen

CmdrShepard, 11 months ago

Who knows what'll actually happen but they could always segregate him with an SS detail in prison.

Royalish, 11 months ago

It truly baffles me how so many people can still support him when the evidence is overwhelming. Love is blind I guess (pretty sure anybody protesting for him would give him a BJ is trump asked 🤷).

TechyDad, 11 months ago

Remember that they only get their information from pro-Trump sources. Imagine if you didn't listen to anything but FOX News, OANN, Newsmax, and the like. All the "news sources" you listened to told you that this was a witch hunt and that anyone who disagreed was a traitor to this country.

You'd likely wind up shouting about Trump's innocence and how this was all political retribution.

They're wrong when they say this, of course, but the root cause is a refusal to listen to anyone who tells them a contrary position.

Brunbrun6766, 11 months ago

I would imagine convictions related to espionage would probably strip you of any secret service protection. People argue that it's a former president's right to have SS protection, but remember the SS hasn't always been about protecting anyone, the used to only be counterfeit currency police

itty53, 11 months ago

I think at this stage removing it would be equivalent to tattooing "assassinate me" on his forehead.

Look I hate the guy too and he doesn't deserve his freedom, but there's a large number of people in this world who would love to merc a former POTUS regardless of who that POTUS is or what they did. And frankly Trump is more dangerous as a martyr than he is alive and alone on house arrest for the rest of his life.

Edit, dead he can't speak for himself anymore, alive all he does is bury himself further every time he opens his mouth. Let him. Let him babble incoherently into obscurity. My father in law was full on MAGA and just last week he called Trump "fucking retarded" off-handedly. My wife and I both felt relief instantly. The dude is losing all but the extreme fringe.

ewe, 11 months ago

Yeah, ideal solution is that the SS detail remains intact and he just goes to jail and the SS just deals with it. I've heard that solitary is a good way to protect inmates when a substantial number of other inmates want to do them harm. Just sayin'

Death2lois, 11 months ago

We will hope they will keep it civilized.

sarsaparilyptus, 11 months ago

I hope they bring him in using the exact some methods they would use for a homeless black man.