Plume,

I'd like to see him manage to wiggle his way out of this one. I'm not American so I'm not familiar with the systems in place and all, but from everything I've seen, well... it's not looking good for him. At all.

But honestly, with Trump legendary incompetence and ability to keep on digging his own grave, I'm barely here for the politics, this is just good entertainment at this point. Even if I know that while this is funny, this will probably be remembered as anything but.

Cylinsier,

I don't think he can actually get out of this one, but he can still litigate it to hell and back. It will depend on which judges his various challenges land in front of and what their capacity for his bullshit is. But he's 77 and eats garbage and doesn't exercise. Very real possibility he just croaks before he ever sees the inside of a cell.

Zorro,
@Zorro@beehaw.org avatar

Jesus didnt realise that trump was 77 already :o then Biden is not too far off

Lifter,

Desinformation. Trump has not been arrested.

ulair,

The article at least states that he was. But that does not necessarily mean he is in jail.

DrDeadCrash,

He was arrested, booked, fingerprinted, and formally charged on 37 counts then released on the condition that he avoid contact with potential witnesses in his upcoming trial.

dreadedchalupacabra,

I mean they keep telling him to stop talking about the case on social media, and that's not working out.

NoName977,

I am from Poland and didn't really follow the whole case. Can someone explain me why there is a thread that he will be arrested? It is hard to find the origin as the whole case exploded.

cptnflinty,

He took top secret documents when he left the white house. They don't belong to him, they're meant to be secured in the library of congress or something. Anyway, librarians tried to get them back, he said no, did a bunch of illegal shit (including flashing them around people he wanted to impress) so FBI got involved, raided his place, found more secret documents, special prosecutor was appointed who took ages really nailing the iron clad case together. Now he been arraigned in court facing federal charges. Because Trumps a dumb shit.

kiku123,

There's a LegalEagle video which sums it up: Trump's Bombshell Federal Document Indictment

Essentially,

  • Trump took classified information during his time as president and failed to return them
  • When asked to return them he failed to comply until forced
  • When forced to comply, he still kept many documents the government knew were missing and lied to the government and his lawyers indicating that they were returned
  • Was caught on tape admitting that he knew they were classified and that it was wrong for him to have them

The first bullet point apparently happens often (Biden, Pence, Hillary have all done similarly in the past). Trump is singular in that he didn't readily comply with the request for the return of documents and the consequent lies to the government (also illegal).

Azceptit,

First for everything in the opposite direction

liontigerwings,

Biden returned the documents before they even know they were gone and he was the one who told them he had them. Trump refused to return the documents when they were requested back and he is caught on tape admitting to knowing he wasn't supposed to have them. Also he asked his lawyers to destroy evidence.

Huge difference between a crime with someone cooperating and someone who tries to destroy evidence. Also the content of trump's documents seem like they're higher level and more highly classified.

MedicPigBabySaver,

Fucker needs to rot in prison!

collegefurtrader,

the Justice Department recommended the defendants be released with no financial or special conditions as they aren't a "flight risk."

Being “arrested” is not the way I remember it

c0mbatbag3l,
@c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world avatar

Headline in five days:

"We were wrong" says justice department when asked about Trump fleeing to Russia for diplomatic protection.

Revan343,

Have you tried being rich?

EnigmaNL,

Lock him up!

metaltoilet,
@metaltoilet@beehaw.org avatar

This title is a little misleading. No, Trump has not been arrested but he did appear in court. He is not in any form of jail (yet).

Lowbird,

We need one of those mod appliable (or vote-appliable?) "Misleading title" or "headline altered" tags maybe

MothBookkeeper,

The headline was not altered.

lysy,

Cool, but remove this caps lock please.

Dubois_arache,
@Dubois_arache@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

No

Hellstormy,

nO

LurkerCandado,

A little on a tangent here but...

I'm guessing News and WorldNews will, again and like in Reddit, be actually USANews. Let's see what the fediverse and instances do bring to that issue.

AbidanYre,

That would probably depend on which instance you're using.

Unless I'm misunderstanding how this all works.

Bautznersenf,

The fact is that the whole world is addicted to US news and everyone wants to know what happens to Trump. Like it or not, the US is still the country that everyone else looks to, even if it's just to shit on it.

YoTcA,

I think at the moment it really depends on what posts people will submit to this community. There are still so few posts, that they will not get buried, like on Reddit.

cabbagee,

AP news says Trump will be released without bond

Trump will be released without having to pay a bond. He will not have to surrender his passport or restrict his personal travel.

Domiku,

Meanwhile, someone allegedly steals a backpack in NYC and languishes in jail for years, then dies without ever having their trial.

MonkeyFightinSnakes,

Clearly getting special treatment but the maga crowd will claim it's a targeted attack.

hanni,

Trump is arrested and Kutcher scores $2bn. Seems to me like he got played by his own son-in-law.

Bautznersenf,

In a few decades we'll have Kutcher run for office as a self made billionaire.

axibzllmbo,

I don't want to get my hopes up, but this feels very "end of the line" for him.

little_hoarse,
@little_hoarse@sh.itjust.works avatar

he'll get out of it one way or another. i don't even know how they're letting this guy declare a run for presidency

sbr32,

There are only 3 requirements for being/ running for POTUS:

Natural born citizen 35 years old 14 year residency in the US

In theory he could be found guilty, still elected and serve from a federal jail cell.

hellothisisdog,
@hellothisisdog@yiffit.net avatar

he pleaded not guilty. and his lawyer said this is "an attack on america".

'cause he had boxes of papers he wasn't supposed to have, that this is an attack on america? yeah, okay 🙄

Spitfire,
@Spitfire@pawb.social avatar

I work with many people who are so upset over this, calling it injustice and how horrible that we choose to prosecute Trump when we should instead be jailing Hillary, Harris, and Biden.

I bite my tongue and don’t say anything but it’s so frustrating.

MothBookkeeper,

I probably shouldn't, but I let those people know what I think. If they want to bring it up, they can hear what I have to say about it too.

hellothisisdog,
@hellothisisdog@yiffit.net avatar

same here. i'm all for treating everyone as equal, but i'm pretty sure nothing new came up after hillary was already investigated and iirc biden was slapped on the wrist for not returning some documents. but hey, you know, one box is the same as rooms full of boxes, apparently

Spitfire,
@Spitfire@pawb.social avatar

The difference seems to me, as far as I know (please correct me if I have missed something) is that Biden and related parties cooperated with getting the documents returned while Trump hid and tried to erase evidence that he had them. And I believe that some have yet to be found, potentially sold off.

MothBookkeeper,

He's just a walking blizzard of dishonesty.

idle,

The whataboutism will be endless as well

squid010,

This is gonna be wild... the feds hardly ever lose.

With that, I'm very curious to see the fallout should he be convicted.

reverendsteveii,

they have him on tape showing people documents that he says are classified and that he also knows that he could have declassified them while in office but that he hasn't.

cptnflinty,

Yeah he's so fucked. Caught red handed worse than Nixon.

PrettyFlyForAFatGuy,

i'm a little worried some of his cultists may find their way onto the jury and block a conviction

Hellebert,

Oh man they're probably all having wet dreams over being "the hero that saves America" or something right now.

Spitfire,
@Spitfire@pawb.social avatar

All it takes is one. They’ll refuse to consider anything other than not guilty.

tate,

the rest of the jury can ask the judge to remove one who is not deliberating in good faith

bouncing,

his lawyer said this is “an attack on america”.

I'm wondering if the lawyers who quit did so because they were too embarrassed to say shit like that in court, despite a certain client's demands.

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