I wonder if people would have the same reaction if the person in question was a known Islamic Terrorist. If there were Facebook groups praising the legacy of Osama Bin Laden, would Meta be then justified to carry out similar censorship?
This guy isn’t a terrorist, or at least is not demonstrably so.
His only crime is wanting to create a place for Sikhs. Maybe he uses violence but I don’t see that in a Google search.
Besides which, if india had credible evidence he was a terrorist…. Chances are solid that he’d have been extradited long before now. It sounds like he wasn’t actually a citizen, but a refugee
This guy is a wanted terrorist in India. I agree he wanted a place for Sikhs but on what cost? He wanted to split the nation and it is unacceptable. He created so much violence inside the nation for that, many people were killed. It is like those proud boys want to split America and make Texas a country.
So they received a take down request from the Indian government, mistook the users for being in India, followed the law that they’re required to follow in India, and when it was brought to their attention that those users were actually based in Canada they went back and allowed the posts. This doesn’t seem as malicious as people are making it out to be, they should probably work on their geo-blocking, but with 3 billion users in 150+ countries with their own local laws it’s probably safer to be aggressive when it comes to removing content when requested.
Well they don’t, hence why they’re taking down posts as required by the countries they operate in and willing to accept a noticable false positive rate to do it.
Your first comment was incredibly vague… I was responding to this part:
Glad corporations get the power to make these decisions.
However, a high false positive rate is different than assuming every post is “guilty until proven innocent”, and they aren’t mutually exclusive either. Current example here would be the automated removal of CSAM on Lemmy. A model was built to remove CSAM and it has a high rate of false positives. Does this mean that it assumes everything is CSAM until it’s able to confirm it isn’t? No. It could work that way, that’s an implementation detail that I don’t know the specifics of, but it doesn’t necessarily mean it does.
But really, who cares? The false positive rate matters for site usability for sure, but the rest is an implementation detail in an AI model, it isn’t the court of law. Nobody’s putting you in Facebook prison because they accidentally mistook your post for rule breaking.
By paying teams of people, which fediverse has an aversion too.
I also like how you do confidently declare it’s easily dealt with engine the instances are currently fighting and blocking child porn attacks. Like it’s going on right now in plain sight and you are calling it mission accomplished 🤣.
That’s some Bush on an aircraft carrier levels of reality wrangling.
Yet it’s back. You will be fighting a battle of attrition. There is a reason social media companies hire entire teams of people for this. And you know what? That job sucks balls, requires full time therapy and discussions, and has an insanely high burnout rate. You aren’t going to just ML it away and services offered by folks like CF aren’t 100% effective. And the problem never ever goes away.
There will be burnout and someone is going to be lazy and get in legal trouble which is going to scare the shit out of anyone who is crazy enough to be running instances not behind a non profit or something.
Part of freedom is that some people will abuse it.
I hope you’re not suggesting we should give up freedoms so those abusing it can’t.
Just go after the abusers, which instance admins do.
If you’re trying to suggest a solution to stop all sharing of CP on the internet without restricting everyone else, I’d love to hear what you come up with.
No, you should employee the team and put in place the procedures for handling it according to the law. Liked literally everyone out there doing social media.
It’s all new. Folks are happy to moderate it now. It will keep coming. They will not have the support of a team and they will miss things and get tired of it. Somebody is bound to get in trouble with legal issues and it’s going to spooke people. The current state is not sustainable long term.
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