modifier,

"Then he will say to those on his left, Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’ 44 "They also will answer, Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’ 45 "He will reply, `I tell you the truth, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’ 46 “Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”

-Some Socialist Groomer Theater Kid

I’d bet any amount of money that most of not all of this bill’s co-sponsors profess (at least surrounding election time) to a personal relationship with Jesus Christ, and a striving to be more Christlike. And all of them seemingly impervious to cognitive dissonance.

FaceDeer,
FaceDeer avatar

I'm an atheist who believes strongly in separation of church and state, but I would dearly love for this to be appended to the law as an amendment. The place is already a theocratic nuthouse so might as well use that to do some good for a change.

ZeroCool,

The bill also gives people the ability to justify use of “defensive force” upon an unhoused person in instances of criminal trespass, including “unlawful camping” on the owner’s property. This would allow property owners to use deadly force against unhoused people on their property without facing criminal consequences.

Sounds like Kyle Rittenhouse is gonna get his mom to drive him to Kentucky. Seriously though, this is fucking disgusting legislation. Homeless people are dehumanized enough but Kentucky is on the verge of legalizing hunting them for sport. What vile pieces of shit those 45 Republican co-sponsors are.

groupofcrows,

So they can kill squatters? Next step, people who are late on rent?

AngryCommieKender,

Sure! Then they can have an estate sale so they can recoup their “losses!”

/s because I’m pretty sure it’s needed, sadly

Maggoty,

You put an S but I would not be surprised in the least.

afraid_of_zombies,

What the smart psychopaths will do is march up to them with a gun and provoke the squatter to try to block it. Now they “fear for their life” and steadily force is justified. Pull a Rittenhouse.

TheFriar,

This is supposed to be absurd commentary but…it doesn’t even feel too far off

unreasonabro,

Contribute to capitalism OR DIE!

And I thought the link about the pastor getting in shit for offering shelter from the cold was peak fuckin murica.

But hey, finally, the honest truth! Never thought we’d see the day. Hateful shit system, making us into shit people. Guess what dickheads, there are better ways to live. literally all of them. it’s over for you anyway, AI is here and it’s too late to make a stand now.

BigMacHole,

I thought that Republican lawmaker was homeless! Woops! At least I didn’t break any Laws!

rekabis,

The party of cruelty and hate.

GilgameshCatBeard,

The GOP is desperately trying to make everything outside of being a wealthy white male conservative illegal.

curiousaur,

While trying their hardest to keep everyone, even white males, poor and uneducated.

PanArab,

And here I was misled my whole life into thinking that the US is a Christian nation. This is so many layers of evil. For a country that nonchalantly drops bombs worth hundreds of thousand on poor people half-way across the world, it is unwilling to take care of its own. Why oh why would we ever adopt your values and morals when you are bad to your own?

Misconduct,

Christianity has always been about hate and oppression I don’t know why everyone keeps getting confused about this

Catma,

The US is a Christian nation. Just they follow Supply Side Jesus not you know the brown skinned socialist Jesus.

beliefnet.com/…/the-gospel-of-supply-side-jesus.a…

MonkeMischief,

That was an amazing share. Thank you! I’m so glad to feel less lonely in this realization.

To expand on this for others:

We’re only mythologically a “Christian nation” insofar that a state sponsored religion keeps masses in line like a shared and encouraged interest in football.

As a country, the U.S’s philosophies are basically the antithesis of the entire Sermon on the Mount.

The really fun hole in that State-sponsored claim is that very same sermon where Jesus Christ, in the flesh, warns against “taking oaths.” Because being torn between “sinning under orders” and going back on your word is a nasty business. See Also “…But I say, love your enemies.”

Yet our empire is thrilled to have children blindly “pledging allegiance” to a flag, and any silly thing it might compel them to do, and people idolize this flag (idolatry) and conflate the cross with glorification of warfare. . . It’s amazing what people can justify if they keep their Bibles shut.

And the whole world is watching.

To rest my case:

Remember when Lucifer tempted Jesus with “authority over all the nations of the world.” Heh, we must remember it’s not a temptation unless the tempter actually possesses the asset in question.

The “no, they’re not real Christians” assertion holds plenty of water here, and all the God-bandying by these stuffed suits and their mindslaves is a big psy-op that’s been conducted in various forms throughout history whenever church and state get snuggly.

It’s made infinitely clear and simple what is expected of a follower of Christ, so that we may see who bears good fruit, and who makes the world a sad, miserable place with their influence.

NigelFrobisher,

It doesn’t even make any difference whether Trump is president of Default Country in actuality or not, because he has been president of its soul for decades already.

PanArab,

Nixon-Reagan is the forever president of the US

aesthelete,

I liked black Reagan the best of the Reagans personally.

bc1,

This is beyond fucked up

bcrown,
werefreeatlast,

Back in 1990, San Diego CA downtown was a run down area. As a young man, I saw and help the area flourish. But that was the whole gentrification thing. I, a poor minority person of color helped make the place awesome…for someone else to buy and for me and my family to leave. However, as I left during the pandemic downtown seems to have grown back to its old drug and homeless habits. Tent city once again, but this time the are is unaffordable for anyone to try and help clean it up. It’s a nice place to live but now the question is, if only rich people live there, who will bridge the homeless people over back to humanity? Right? If there’s no bridge class, then the only solution is to get rid of them by force. That, in the eyes of the rich who live there. If you’re not rich and barely getting by, you’re basically the help.

curiousaur,

Don’t put work into anything you don’t own.

HiddenLayer5,
Clbull,

Because nothing says ‘qualified immunity’ quite like gunning down the homeless

I can’t believe I wanted to live in America fifteen years ago. Now I wanna stay the hell away. Y’all are unhinged.

smokin_shinobi,

All my life I thought y’all was a uniquely American phrase.

SolarMech,

And then y’all exported yer culture out to us via Hollywood.

stopthatgirl7,
stopthatgirl7 avatar

It is, but it’s useful so it’s spreading. I’m from the southern part of the US, so I’m all for it.

frezik,

Lots of other languages have a dedicated word for second person plural, but English only has dialects that do.

Marin_Rider,

in Australia the equivilant would probably be “yous”

aesthelete,

You can be used plurally. Ye used to be commonly used as a second person plural but now sounds old fashioned because it fell into disuse.

frezik,

“You” isn’t a dedicated word, since it’s typically used in singular. It’s common to have something specific to the task in other languages.

aesthelete,

Agreed, it’s a little awkward to use you as a plural and that’s what ye used to be used for.

But ye is even more awkward. I suspect through frequent usage, “you” as a plural would start to feel just fine.

In common conversation, it’s my experience that “you guys” winds up being the winner in American English. But it gets really dreadful when the speaker is trying to address a crowd with possessives and they’re using that expression.

“This is what I was asking about from your guy(essess) [sic] presentation last week”…I just…wince a bit when I hear it…and I’ve said things like it myself but that doesn’t make it any better.

uriel238,
@uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

We were entirely unhinged in 2008. You might have been buying into Obama’s Hope and Change rhetoric, but that was all just campaigning nonsense. Obama is a total neoliberal and kept most of Bush’s policies.

We were in lockstep on the path to fascism even then, though media only admitted it once Trump walked away with the Republican Party.

SpaceCowboy,
@SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca avatar

The problem with saying everyone is a fascist is it desensitizes everyone so they don’t know what an actual fascist is.

Unless that was your plan all along…

Are you a fascist?

You sound like a fascist, so you’re probably a fascist. If you’re probably a fascist that means you’re definitely a fascist.

When will you stop being a fascist?

HorseWithNoName,

The irony in this comment

uriel238,
@uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Except in this case, the US public (the press at least) has done the introspection. The transnational white power movement, and the Christian nationalist movement (there’s a lot of intersection) qualify for all of Umberto Eco’s fourteen properties of fascist ideology. They also adhere to Luis Britto García’s eight characteristics of Fascism. These movements also feature Emilio Gentile’s ten elements of fascism.

Now I understand in the age of internet discourse, we have to be mindful of Godwin’s rule of Nazi analogies, so it may not be enough for us to simply say that the US state is fascist so much as we have to be explicit about how it compares, such as (a few examples out of dozens, if not hundreds):

  • The overconfinement of inmates by the federal and state prisons, or of extrajudicial detainees in detention centers without reasonable hygiene or living provisions so that disease runs rampantly through them, what came to light during the COVID-19 lockdown.
  • The lack of reasonable oversight of law enforcement allowing them to seize or kill at will, comparable to the Freikorps irregulars from which Rohm’s Sturmabteilung were recruited.
  • ICE’s defiance of orders to arrest and deport immigrants only if they were convicted felons, instead arresting and detaining them at will, often deporting them not to nations of origin but into the hands of human traffickers, and sometimes detaining American citizens that were insufficiently nationalized (e.g. didn’t speak English and were too dark) knowing they had a slim chance of ever getting back to home soil. Compare this to the Heydrich’s Sicherheitsdienst who was ordered only to arrest and detain undesirables that were already violent criminals. Not only did Heydrich ignore the violent criminal provision but also kept adding new qualifiers to the undesirables list that qualified for arrest. His batch of detainees ballooned so quickly as to turn from a warehouse in Berlin to the massive complex of concentration camps that we were taught about in school. And we know (or should know) how that story evolves.

I studied the holocaust in the aughts once the US started doing Are We The Baddies stuff, wondering if that process might be a thing to watch for, so if you aren’t sufficiently educated about the German genocide machine, and how it applies to the United States in the 2020s, there’s way too much to compare.

I could go on and on and on about the capture of the federal government, the denial of judicial confirmations to President Obama, so that a Republican president (Trump) could flood the Federal judiciary with Federalist Society judges, the countless judicial carve-outs of civil protections allegedly guaranteed by the fourth, fifth and sixth amendments to the Constitution of the United States, the bloated prison state that has more inmates (total or per capita) than any other penal system on the planet, including nations that are supposed to be scary and authoritarian like China and DPRK. And if you really were interested, I could go into the specifics as to how all that compares to the German Reich starting about a Century ago.

In 2013 when Edward Snowden blew the whistle on NSA’s PRISM, XKeyscore and ESCHALON programs, we had learned they were over ten years in the making. I didn’t want to find out that the US is executing and incinerating people by the thousands per day, and find out we’ve been doing it for years now. So far we’re not there yet, but it is conspicuous how much latitude law enforcement and prison officers have when it comes to cruel treatment, violence or even killing.

So yes, the US is already doing fascism by the bunches, and a couple of huge, dangerous movements are established in state and national politics that are invoking a lot of fascist narratives. But now the Republican party is looking to neuter elections in the US, make it a one-party state and swap out any official (elected, appointed or hired) that doesn’t salute the new world order, as per Project 2025 by the Heritage Foundation. It’s easy to websearch. That should scare the snot out of all of us regardless of whether the F-word is attached to it.

Scientician,

People are crying fascist because fascist shit is happening.

SpaceCowboy,
@SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca avatar

Maybe we should make a list of things that aren’t fascist, it would save a lot of time. I mean if Obama doesn’t make the “not fascist” list, then what actually does make that list?

We should also consider compiling a list of actions that are not genocide, because that word seems to be slapped on everything nowadays too.

Or maybe we could create a fascist scale and grade every world leader past and present to prove that everyone is a little bit fascist and therefore fascism is nothing to worry about. “You know in some ways we could consider Obama to be a little bit fascist…”

Or maybe we should just focus on the fascists that a clear and present threat to democracy. Like Trump and Putin. Might make it a little easier to consider what needs to be done to prevent democracy from being ended by these assholes.

tigeruppercut,

No one in this thread called Obama a fascist

Crikeste,

The problem? It’s you.

wildginger,

Legalizing killing homeless people is pretty fuckin fascist my guy

SpaceCowboy,
@SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca avatar

You sound like Obama, who was also apparently fascist. You must be a fascist.

wildginger,

Do you understand that the point youre making is that it is not fascist to kill a vulnerable subgroup of the population that has been marked as undesirable?

Do you also understand that your point is directly contradictory to every single professional study of real, actual fascist organizations and governments?

PanArab,

Obama was violent, wasn’t he?

MonkeMischief,

He did really like drone strikes, to the tune of more than 500 of them often involving civilian casualties.

PanArab,

Fascism is capitalism gone violent.

KillingTimeItself,

as a staunch political satirist. This amuses me.

“dont like homeless people? Kill them.”

jokes aside though there is nothing more infuriating then the “silent removal” of a problem. It’s great that you think homeless people don’t deserve rights, how about you start by not giving them any as opposed to pretending that they have them, while actively making their existence worse for no reason other than public image.

If you’re gonna be a dick, at least be forward about it.

SpaceCowboy,
@SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca avatar

I mean it’s kinda been done… www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_4J4uor3JE

So it is real life politicians imitating a parody of an insane politician.

HorseWithNoName,

They already don’t have rights, but the laws are different from city to city. In some places they can’t be fed in public and people get arrested for giving them food. They can’t be on the sidewalk. They’re obviously not allowed to fall asleep as long as they’re unhoused. Plus parking restrictions created specifically to prevent car camping. Taking trash from dumpsters is considered theft. You can’t use a restroom without buying something and cities have taken out all or most public bathrooms, so it becomes a crime just to relieve themselves. Idk, the list is pretty endless.

KillingTimeItself,

honestly the car camping restrictions are my biggest peeve. You wanna evict me in the morning sure. But fuck you i’ll sleep in my car if i damn well please.

I’ve never understood why people seem to be content with society being for the “average person” as a certifiably not average person myself it’s actually insane. Literally just want to mind my own business, and it would actually be easier to mind everybody elses business.

creamed_eels,

My fellow murricans, it really a free nation if we can’t come together to shoot homeless people in the streets?

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