bloody wokies making dr who all gay and that!

Context (warning: it’s the Express):

BBC fans have been left divided over the new series of Doctor Who, with some loyal viewers branding the show as “woke” and “unwatchable.” The 14th season of the long-running fantasy series returned to our screens this month.

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Following its return, fans watching at home have reacted online to the new series. One person slammed: “After the cast and crew told the old fans to stop watching in favour of the ‘modern audience’, the current season’s 2-episode premiere received the lowest overnight ratings in the show’s HISTORY!!! .”

A second person chimed in: “ Wow. Well Dr Who is totally unwatchable now. Maybe have a Dr Who series again instead of a platform for gender politics and radical left wing ideology? Go woke go broke.”

A third person also commented on X: “The Maestro was probably one of the worst things I’ve ever seen. No exaggeration. .”

edit: and context for the video clip: TV Offal.

NigelFrobisher,

This reminds me of when my parents went absolutely berserk over Kenny Everett and Freddie Mercury doing a leatherman dance on the TV, except even more pathetic because four decades have passed since that and it’s no longer considered acceptable to chain your Irishman to a post when you go into the pub, Dad.

Hossenfeffer,

Good job they seem unaware of the butchest of Doctors.

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rubikcuber,

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ShimmeringKoi,
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Yeah this is the thing that makes the last several years of Dr Who bad.

Flyberius,
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Dr Who has always been unwatchable

NigelFrobisher,

It’s better if you come out from behind the sofa, or so I heard.

TowardsTheFuture,

Boy if they hate it for being gay and stuff it’d be terrible if anyone told them about Captain Jack Harkness

Emperor,

When I went digging for the Tory press loosing their shit over Dr Who I found the Telegraph were being almost reasonable about it:

What has happened to Doctor Who? Of late, there’s been a flurry of irritable reviews about Russell T Davies’s triumphantly expensive return to the Tardis, complaining about the show’s crowbarred-in references to genocide, refugees, gender pronouns and transgenderism. What is with this barrage of political correctness being hurled at our kids?

In some ways, it is business as usual – Davies has played with gender and sexuality across his entire career, and definitely since resurrecting Doctor Who in 2005. Captain Jack Harkness, played by the now unmentionable John Barrowman, stormed into Davies’s first season as a bisexual troublemaker who snogged Billie Piper’s Rose and Christopher Eccleston’s Doctor in the same episode. Captain Jack spin-off Torchwood saw every major character have some sort of non-heterosexual relationship.

After that, characters such as Bill Potts (gay), Madame Vastra and Jenny Flint (married Victorian lesbians), and Clara Oswald (bisexual) took the baton on. It all meshed smoothly, few people complained, and the nation got on with its Saturday evening teatime viewing entirely unruffled.

But suddenly it’s all started to feel a little clunky. In last year’s 60th anniversary special, a transgender character, Rose (played by Yasmin Finney), saved the day because she was non-binary, and in the second of the weekend’s double-bill, The Devil’s Chord, American drag artist Jinkx Monsoon appeared from inside a piano and admonished a fusty music teacher to use the pronoun “them”.

It’s tempting to think that Davies is looking for an outraged reaction.

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This week he gave an interview in which the journalist pointed out that one of the papers Davies had in mind had given the episode a five-star review. Was he annoyed? “Very annoyed,” he said. “I’m sure it won’t last.”

The Welshman has claimed that “anti-queer thinking is on the rise.” Possibly. But not in Doctor Who. In the 1960s, Max Adrian’s King Priam and Derren Nesbitt’s leather-clad Tegana were clearly gay. There was a lesbian subtext to Ace and Karra in the 1980s. A thinly disguised Alan Turing showed up in the Curse of Fenric (1989). Admittedly, Alpha Centauri, the hermaphrodite one-eyed alien from the Jon Pertwee era, looked a little too much like a giant green penis to make any kind of statement beyond “are you pleased to see me?”. There’s a reason Doctor Who has a large LGBTQ+ following.

And there’s a reason storylines about refugees, genocide, poverty, evil empires and all the other political topics from the recent episodes fit neatly into Doctor Who - it’s always had messages. Take the piece from The Spectator which denounced the show’s “politics” and complained about “a growing tendency on the part of the Doctor to moralise tediously about peace, love, and brotherhood”, and citing the Doctor’s “ludicrous enthusiasm for ecological cranks”. That was written in 1973.

As Tony Jordan, the 64-year-old co-ordinator of the Doctor Who Appreciation Society, says over the phone: “People who complain that Doctor Who is too progressive either haven’t seen it or else they haven’t watched it for a very long time, and they’ve forgotten what the show is like.”

“Doctor Who has always been at the cutting edge of progressive viewpoints,” he points out. “The very first episode in 1963 was produced by a Jewish woman in her late 20s and directed by a gay Asian man. Whenever the front pages get overexcited about, say, the Doctor becoming a woman, real fans just sigh.”

Then start to go a bit off the rails:

The truth is, the Doctor is a One Nation Tory, bestowing his ideas of kindness across the universe by any means necessary. “Doctor Who has generally been both gently progressive and vaguely establishment in tone,” explains Jonn Elledge, journalist, fan and author of A History of the World in 47 Borders. “As well as fighting monsters, the Doctor overthrows tyrants and fights evil empires, but historically did so in the guise of a vaguely patrician man who went to a sort of space Oxbridge.”

Elledge cites a handful of stories you could call right-wing – including The Dominators (1968) and The Sun Makers (1977) – and points to Pertwee, a posh chap in a velvet smoking jacket whose best mate is a brigadier. Very patrician.

Although our comrades on more far left instances would probably have reading of Dr Who that would suggest he’s just a time-and-space reactionary.

TowardsTheFuture,

lol wild ending, but yeah like, always been very fond of gender/sexuality looking at torchwood. Always been fond of stories around genocide and slavery. The ood was quite interesting, plus hell HE has genocided the angels, I think he genocided some spider aliens too? Idk it’s been ages since I’ve watched. Gave up during Matt Smith cuz it wasn’t my thing.

CosmicApe,
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Why is Barrowman now unmentionable?

Emperor,

He can’t keep his dick in his pants.

CosmicApe,
CosmicApe avatar

Wow, quite literally too

Emperor,

And then resting it on people’s shoulders. All good natured pranks, nothing to see here (is his take on it).

flamingos,

14th season

Forgot the wokies, the yanks have infiltrated treasured British institution The Daily Express.

NigelFrobisher,

Everyone knows the 14th Season is “More rain”.

rubikcuber,

“Actually” (Whovian mode engaged)

Season 14 started in 1976 with Tom Baker in The Masque of Mandragora. Original Doctor Who was always “Seasons”. The 2005 reboot switched to calling them “Series” presumably to avoid confusion. Of course, this series is back to “Season 1” because reasons. Basically the article is all wrong.

flamingos,

Glad to know I’m not the only one confused by Doctor Who now having three entries on iPlayer. I haven’t watched the show since the end of Matt Smith, so I thought it might’ve got a full reboot, but after starting the first episode it was clearly a continuation.

(Also, why does the Doctor keep saying he’s adopted? He says it like he’s not actually from Gallifray, which is not how I remember it.)

rubikcuber,

You need to watch the Jodie Whittaker run to get that whole storyline. I dropped off halfway through Capaldi and only went back (completely spoiler free so no expectations) last year to watch his last season plus Jodie. I’d recommend doing a catch-up actually… I really enjoyed about 75% of it, although some episodes (non story arc ones) are proper clunkers. Some fans got quite riled up over the main Jodie story arc and wanted RTD to retcon it all, but he seems to be really leaning into it.

mindbleach,

Honestly that’s the only offensive part of this production. You don’t get to pull “season one” out of your ass, fourteen years into the reboot of a show that’s sixty years old.

DmMacniel,

Is it bad because of the story or bad because of precieved attack on their ideology?

Emperor,

The first episode was a bit shit but the second was excellent, however, I’d question if the first two people watched either or if they are just parroting opinions they got from their racist and homophobic bubble.

VaultBoyNewVegas,

I thought maestro was a great villain, personally.

Emperor,

Yep, brilliant casting.

VaultBoyNewVegas,

Agreed, maybe it’s a bias but I wasn’t expecting a drag queen to be so good.

Uruanna,

The first episode, like Ruby Road, had awful dialogs because they spent like 10 minutes having the Doctor sum up Time Lords, Gallifrey, and the TARDIS in more words than the entire series has ever used for it. “By the way did you know that TARDIS is an acronym? Here’s what it stands for! And here’s an exciting situation that makes my hearts beat - that’s right, plural, I have two hearts!” So I have no idea how new viewers and gen Tiktok took it, but for a nuWho fan that was fucking exhausting.

I did find the GOP planet hilarious, but only for a couple of minutes. And the fart propulsion… There’s no one who hasn’t wondered about that for at least 5 seconds - good thing that they don’t dwell on the joke longer than that. Other than that, you know the people who hated the rest did so because the Doctor tells a bunch of literal babies “don’t let others set up expectations for you, you are perfect as you are.”

Maestro was a big step up despite still having some flaws. Directing wise too, like with the silent sequence, that was pretty cool. Acting is a bit over the top, which can be grating, but it’s not out of line for Dr. Who.

I’m looking forward to the rest, I just hope they’ll take a damn chill pill and talk a little less before my eardrums burst. I’m into the social commentary, just in less words please.

Emperor,

I’m looking forward to the rest, I just hope they’ll take a damn chill pill and talk a little less before my eardrums burst.

A tense Moffat episode next, which should be a change of pace.

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