How's the censorship around here?

The reddit piracy community was in a neverending struggle to avoid being banned from the site, constantly censoring and restricting what people could post to keep the reddit admins happy. What's the situation with that sort of thing on lemmy? Is it a free for all? Same situation as back there? Something in between? I guess we may all find out together...

dylanTheDeveloper,
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I mean nobodies called me the n word yet so I guess it’s pretty tame

mightysashiman,
mightysashiman avatar

Any idea if a swizerland based instance may have been created yet?

kujus,

I heard lemmy.ml bans/removes things critical of China/CCP, but haven't tested it yet. Maybe someone may chime in with experiences.

krolden,
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I heard

If you’re going to say something like that you should back it up with evidence.

Ghast,

Judging by the IP address, lemmy.ml seems to be located in France. That's not fantastic for take-down notices, as far as I'm aware.

I'm in Serbia, land of the free, home of the torrents. I don't know if there are VPS providers here, but if so, it's a good country for hosting anything but government criticism (not that you'd need to criticize Vućić the benevolent, long may he reign).

_comfortablyAverage_,

I just want the website to work normally man.. The current influx of new users has shut almost everything down. The poor server hamsters...

Ghast,

Yea, we got some growing pains. I hope Lemmy.ml has prepared for Monday. If the tinyest percentage of Reddit comes along (and I've been mentions of Lemmy in many subreddits) then this place will experience a deluge.

piezoelectron,
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Hey, I'd strongly recommend using njal.la or 1984.is to get a VPS and run your own instance from it. Both services are organisationally designed to fend off DMCA and other takedown notices. Like literally, the Njalla creator has a whole page where he mockingly replies to such requests.

Njalla is based in Sweden, 1984 in Iceland. Both accept anonymous crypto payments, but only 1984 accepts Monero.

More generally, I'd recommend these two services to anyone interested in running an instance catered to "risky" topics like piracy.

ElvenMithril,

Would be interested in it as well. Whole reddit fiasco shows us that monopoly sooner or later will be abused

pushka,

It's scary , cos lemy.ml doesn't want the whole website deleted because Disney and Nintendo find one of their files here ,,

foispan,

Yeah I think hosting a piracy community on the largest instance run by the devs is counterintuitive. Makes much more sense to host it on one of the 200 other instances

techgearwhips,

This is not possible since it's federated correct?

koncertejo,

This is why it's important that no one instance become the "main" instance for a federated service (see also: mastodon.social getting a lot of flack for officially becoming the default server). If that instance goes down then it suddenly takes a huge chunk of users and content with it. So long as lemmy.ml is one among dozens then all is good!

king_dead,

It's federated so if you run into any issues you can always make another

pushka,

That would be safest , not a sub-community but start an instance hosted in Switzerland or Russia or something , then no one can complain (maybe mark your site to be blocked in a country or removed from Google.com

Olgratin_Magmatoe,

or removed from Google.com

Wouldn't that do very little given that people on any instance can see it anyways?

computerboss,

There might be some issues with lemmy.ml itself after a while, but the community should be able to move to a different instance if it becomes a problem on one.

rlhe,

Are you referring to physical issues with Lemmy.ml, like staying reliable, or some future philosophical changes?

cnnrduncan,

It's entirely possible that in the future lemmy.ml may be taken over by admins who disagree with piracy, taken down by a government, or simply run out of money to pay for hosting costs. If that happens it shouldn't be a huge problem as the federated nature of Lemmy shields other instances from stuff like that going down in a separate instance!

rlhe,

Oh, I gotcha! I thought you had some immediate knowledge I didn't -- the reddit thing has me a bit jumpy I guess. lol. Lemmy.ml seems pretty chill, that's what I joined here, so I hope it stays sane!

Jaximus,

It will be different if millions join in and ot gets the attention of some company or the other. The good thing is that the comm can always move to another instance.

computerboss,

It honestly could be either. But the most likely thing to happen is a big company (Disney, HBO, Netflix, ect) sends lemmy.ml a take down request that the mods decide is not worth fighting and they nuke the community. The nice thing is someone could always spin up an instance focused on piracy and ignore take down requests.

I actually think it would be really cool to have a Lemmy instance in Switzerland or somewhere that hosts communities like piracy, open signups, cracked games, ect.

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