UnderpantsWeevil,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

Hoover had a similar description of FDR

Which isn’t to say FDR and Reagan were in any way qualitatively close. But both men had political agendas that varied substantially from the prior administrations. And they both moved rapidly away from the direction of prior administrations.

Reagan was the first real neoconservative President, the closest thing to a Libertarian president the country has had since Coolidge, and a man who had surrounded himself with leaders of the conservative congressional minority with the intent of flipping the legislature.

I’m not shocked to hear he was blind and deaf to Carter’s “Top 20 issues” given that these simply didn’t concern a guy whose priorities were deregulation, tax cuts, privatization, and military exports.

Adalast,

God, if we are going to be forced to elect a goddamned fossil, could it be Carter instead of Biden or Trump? Please. He has only had one term. He was truly Tue last president who really was just a genuinely good guy. Obama was good and he did a lot of good things, Biden is really trying to push on stuff, but has a dubious history at best. I wasn’t even fucking alive when Carter was president, but I know he is the only past president in my lifetime who STILL HELPS BUILD HABITAT FOR HUMANITY HOUSES. Period. Full stop. That is ignoring the fact he is 99 years old. Like, can we have that energy in politics please?

T00l_shed,

Only mark against Carter I can think of is the deregulation of air travel.

lennybird,
@lennybird@lemmy.world avatar

Even there Reagan was like, “Hold my Movie Script” and crushed the airline industry union, essentially leading to the post-labor era.

With all the news about Air Traffic Controllers falling asleep and making poor decisions, would be nice if Democrats connected this failure to Reagan’s fuck-up, but I guess the electorate is too short-sighted to connect the dots.

T00l_shed,

Oh yeah, in typical repub fashion he made things worse.

rekabis,

His most odiously visible legacy, methinks, is “trickle down economics”. Never has a more blatantly pro-Parasite-Class lie been punted so effectively.

UnderpantsWeevil,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

The Volcker Shock, his mishandling of Iran and Afghanistan, and his heavy reliance on privatization as a means of devolving federal powers to the states all paled beside what Reagan eventually put us through. But they moved us in a similar direction.

Carter was the last President to win the votes of the segregationist south. Perhaps his brand of moderate centrism was the best the Dems could field against Ford. But I would not have called him a particular good President. A lot of what he said and did upon leaving office contradicted what he said and did while in office. Similar to LBJ in that regard.

T00l_shed,

Ahh those are good points to raise, im not a yank and I wasn’t alive in the early 80s. But thanks for letting me know!

jdf038,

Um Carter had been in hospice for some time unfortunately. He has lived an amazing life and was super active into his 90s but we are unfortunately past that. I get what you’re saying though and it’s sad he lost originally.

andros_rex,

Which is a little funny, because Park would have just pretty recently got assassinated as a consequence of all that authoritarianism…

Blackmist,

If only John Hinckley Jr was a better shot.

BodePlotHole,

“I’m glad Reagan dead.” ~Killer Mike

Asafum,
someguy3,

Fascinating I had no idea. Sounds familiar.

Dagwood222,

Similarly, Obama tried to set up a training exercise to show the incoming Trump people how to deal with a potential epidemic. Trump blew it off.

jkrtn,

Donald deliberately dismantled the pandemic response specifically to spite Obama. He is one of the most fragile dimwits on the planet.

Dagwood222,

Not just Obama. The previous National Security Advisor was pals with the Admiral who ran the office; when the NSA guy called Trump an idiot Donnie retaliated by getting rid of the Admiral. Government by spite.

buzz86us,

And somehow between this, multiple indictments AND his awful independent pandemic response a bunch of people want to try to reelect him.

pufferfisherpowder,

Like half of the USA?

Gradually_Adjusting,
@Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world avatar

More like a third, abetted by the apathy of another third

Carrick1973,

Those people just want to see the world burn so that everyone can be as miserable as they are so they can say “See, we said that life was miserable, and now you can feel it too.” A bunch of fucking dimwits…

KillingTimeItself,

guys, im starting to think that this ronald guy was kind of a shit head.

daltotron,

You know, I do think john hinckley was kinda cool, now that you mention it

SatansMaggotyCumFart,

Poor guy shot Reagan to try to impress Jodie Foster.

ILikeBoobies,

Anyone have the article?

rsuri,
ILikeBoobies,

Thank you, fun read

Sam_Bass,

Shoulda drew it up in a script written form with his name tagged to the pertitent lines

Fades,

Fuck Ronnie R

dylanmorgan,

Ronald Reagan? The psychopath??

Wanderer,
PugJesus,

Ronald Reagan? The fascist?

BeatTakeshi,
@BeatTakeshi@lemmy.world avatar

Can’t begin to imagine how Obama felt passing the baton to the pumpkin

YaksDC,
@YaksDC@lemm.ee avatar

The entire world lost that day but at least Obama didn’t lose an election to that orange idiot.

WarmSoda,

Obama was smart. He fucked off to a long vacation away from everything when he left office. Those pictures of him enjoying himself are legendary.

ThrowawayPermanente,

What they don’t show you is him spending every second wondering when the bombs would start falling

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