Question about GPL-3 and deleting files from a Github project

This might be an odd question to ask, but I want to be sure to understand it correctly. When I clone a project in Github that is licensed under GPL-3.0 license, am I allowed to delete bunch of files that I no longer need?

Someone took an old BCX-BASIC program and converted it into C with some additional work to make it compile in Linux, and a Python GUI. The original Basic program is still included in the project. I want to delete everything besides the .c program, license and an include file. I want to add my own Makefile and just create the commandline executable with gcc. And I might change the name of the application too and either create my own GUI or maybe (if its possible) to integrate the C program in Rust or Zig in example, but have to explore this more.

But the files that were included there, the legacy BASIC program and some other files, are licensed under GPL-3 too. Am I allowed to just delete those files from the project?

Kissaki,

Yes, the GPL allows you to make modifications. The GPL still applies.

The cloned repository still holds the history and deleted files. The files that are still there retain the GPL. If you make additions to the GPL sources, the GPL applies to those too. (Copyleft license.)

You can check the summary of GPL on ChooseALicense to understand your rights and conditions a bit better.

RobotToaster,
@RobotToaster@mander.xyz avatar

The old files would still be in the commit history anyway.

recursive_recursion, (edited )
@recursive_recursion@programming.dev avatar

yes deleting files wouldn’t violate GPL-3.0 to the best of my knowledge as those files would still be under the GPL license,

  • it’s just that you wouldn’t be using them

if anyone wanted to use a file licensed under any of GPL licenses the user would be required to license any modified or redistibuted files under the same license (“or later”) as to not violate the copyleft terms

NekkoDroid,
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Just a minor clarification/correction: the “or later” part also depends on the license per se. There is a GPL-3.0-only and a GPL-3.0-or-later. Usually you’ll find something like “or at your option any later version.” if that is the case, but by default you should expect the GPL-3.0-only to apply.

recursive_recursion, (edited )
@recursive_recursion@programming.dev avatar

that is correct👍

thingsiplay,

I always found it a bit nebulous to have the “or later” statement / option. Because that is not precise and which GPL is meant to? Everyone can write a new version of the GPL. The “or later” does not specify which, it just implies it would be GNU GPL. It’s been a long time since I read and studied the GPLv2, never v3 and I actually never really understood how the “or later” would be allowed.

Licensing is still confusing, even after more than a decade.

recursive_recursion, (edited )
@recursive_recursion@programming.dev avatar

for the “or later” clause I’m assuming that there is clarification in the license to state that the license must be validated by the GNU organization or states that it must be a later/newer “GNU” based license

  • this is my assumption, I would have to reread (once I’m back home) the license to confirm for sure

The main difference between GPL-2.0 and 3.0 (if I remember correctly) is closure/addressing the Tivoization loophole that exists in GPL-2.0

Licensing is still confusing, even after more than a decade.

  • totally fair, unless you’re a lawyer or someone with OCD like me, no person would want to spend time reading all of the licensing terms/clauses
thingsiplay,

And I appreciate the help in understanding the subject. I am actually someone who reads licenses and sometimes dig into terms to get an understanding of very specific subjects, but got a bit too comfortable lately and need to catch up. I plan on reading the GPLv3 too, but this needs a bit time and effort. So until then I’ll ask around.

recursive_recursion,
@recursive_recursion@programming.dev avatar

no worries🤗

Shareni,

deleting files wouldn’t violate GPL-3.0

Unless you delete the license itself

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