ViolaB, German
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Und ich muss auch sagen seitdem ich mehrere Exfreund hatte die Informatiker waren und absolut keine Grenzen kannten was es digitale Gewalt angeht und sich dann eher noch so drüber lustig gemacht haben, so nach dem Motto stell dich nicht an und so schlimm ist dass alles gar nicht.

Z.B. heimlich eine Kamera im Bücherregal Installiert, oder angedroht die kompletten privaten Email Daten im Darknet öffentlich zu machen wenn an hinterfragt, ob er das mit dem Kindesmissbrauch Material melden darf...

ViolaB,
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Der scheiß den er gemacht hat war halt schon illegal und er hat versucht mich psychisch unter Druck zu setzen, dass ich nicht zur Polizei damit gehe, was funktionieren hat.

Joni,

@ViolaB 😐😔

ViolaB,
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@Joni

😐

Joni,

@ViolaB very finnish of you.

ViolaB,
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@Joni 😁

ViolaB,
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@Joni

It's a weird thing to do... to be honest. 🤔🤭

I imagine the other way...

Would be extremly problematic if I were a finnish woman who wanted be as german as possible.

Joni,

@ViolaB you mean like all of sudden you'd be very fond of potatoes, sausages and beer? I'm sorry, but you'd still be quite finnish 🤭

ViolaB,
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@Joni I tried Beer, still hate it... I should maybe found out if I am somehow lithuanian. 😁

I don't like nationalism for a good reason.

It's stupid.

ViolaB,
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@Joni

But I love languages and culture.

Joni,

@ViolaB so do I. nationalism is all about finding differences in people that are mostly all the same. finns and germans are not that much different.

although if any finnish woman started wearing lederhosen, eating sauerkraut and telling people constantly that "ich bin ein Berliner", she'd probably end up to a psych ward very quickly.

ViolaB,
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@Joni yes because the women wear a Drindl. 🤣

Also this is not funny at all at lot of people are extremly into bavarian kitsch as an expression of beeing German and the creepy thing ist that it was invented from the Nazis and has Not much to do with traditional historical german clothes at all.

ViolaB,
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@Joni

There are some "Trachten" that did look kind of cool but almost noone thinks of it as typcial German.

Joni,

@ViolaB well, we have our fascist past also to deal with and it's very creepy, when someone is performing as a typical normal finn very loudly, because everything even remotely extreme is considered unfinnish. our food tastes very bland and beer tastes like piss, because we try to be as humble as possible. we all wear gray and black clothes, so no one can see us.

there's a joke about finn in a zoo watching an elephant. other nationalities are fascinated about this fantastic creature and finn is thinking "I wonder what that elephant thinks about me?"

ViolaB,
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@Joni

Yeah, but isn't that an sign of empathy to want to know what the elephant is thinking.

And then you maybe know the elephant doesn't think about you at all.

Maybe the elephant just thinks damn I want to be somewhere, not Here.

Or maybe the elephant thinks just damn I want to know why this fascinating creatures staring at me. If wonder what they thinking.

Joni,

@ViolaB well, finn would be devastated, if elephant hadn't any opinions, because everytime Finland is mentioned in a good way in international news media, it's like winning an ice hockey championship. that's one good reason we loved Sanna Marin, because every goddamn foreign newspaper adored her 😆

but she was hated for the same reason: she got everyone's attention and that's not finnish.

ViolaB,
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@Joni I think also the problem was that she was too young and too pretty and this makes people hate her.

Joni,

@ViolaB yeah and she's a feminist and we have strong tradion of partiarchy in politics. old farts wasn't fond of her.

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@Joni

Well you are much more ahead with feminism politics than we are in Germany.

Merkel as a women just worked out because she wasn't a feminist... 🙄

Joni,

@ViolaB well, I did read her biography and I have to say I like her. she has a good heart although she's quite conservative. I don't know what kind of politician she actually was, but the book was good.

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@Joni

Okay I thought she is more a progressive person.

Conservative in what direction?

Joni,

@ViolaB well, she was from the east side, so automatically I thought she was a leftie.

a christian commie is a weird combination, but I thought she had it working quite well.

ViolaB,
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@Joni With east you mean Helsinki? Right?

Joni,

@ViolaB ddr. not Helsinski.

ViolaB,
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@Joni oh I see, it was kind out of my mind... Nowadays not many progressive people are connected with the eastern part of Germany. I started to disslike eastern Germany the AfD is extremly popular there.

Joni,

@ViolaB I can understand that with that totalitarian history. it was quite ugly and made a lot of damage to people.

ViolaB,
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@Joni Still is... We still struggle much more with it then I thought we would.

ViolaB,
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@Joni

And it is quite annoying.

What I realized is that also the Verfassungsschutz much worse than I thought. Also the hole spy and ucontrol people system in Germany...

Wow... it's fcked up.

Joni,

@ViolaB I visited the stasi prison one time I visited Berlin and I think it broke me a bit. I've read some books about life in DDR, but seeing the scars still visible in Berlin was something I wasn't ready.

ViolaB,
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@Joni Been there too it was creepy as fck. My longterm and first exboyfriend had real horrible family story connected to the DDR. They just broke families in a extremly cruel way to keep The system alive.

Joni,

@ViolaB well, after the war Soviet Union had a quite strong grip of Finland until it collapsed, so we have our unsolved past too, but probably not as difficult as yours. we weren't divided by a wall.

ViolaB,
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@Joni yes, I learned that you more struggle with the "swedish kingdom" and also in the North the Sami situation is brutal...

Joni,

@ViolaB yeah.. we have a long history of being a human shield between sweden and russia.

ViolaB,
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@Joni

I watched documentarys of people who were bullied for beeing both a swedish speaking Finn and finnish speaking swedish peole.

Joni,

@ViolaB svensk bättre folk.

Joni,

@ViolaB well, now we have swedish national party with the real finns in a fascist goverment.

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@Joni

LOL this is a kind of finnish weird way... to deal with Putin... maybe...

And all the Trump based shit what ruined a huge part of humanity.

Joni,

@ViolaB Trump and far right has a very strong connection to Kreml. it is not a coinsidence that Ukraine war and rising of far right in USA and in Europe happens in the same time.

It's called a hybrid war.

ViolaB,
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@Joni Yes...Well No. I watched PewDiePie.

😁👍

Joni,

@ViolaB what's that?

ViolaB,
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@Joni you don't know him?

Joni,

@ViolaB nope. I think I've heard the name before, but had absolutely no idea who he is.

ViolaB,
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@Joni

https://youtu.be/sK37SolFV8I?si=udj7P6YQIG2kLobf

He was the worlds most sucsuessful YouTube influencer for quite a long time. I think almost everyone of my generation knows him.

Joni,

@ViolaB well, I haven't spend that much time in youtube, except for watching music videos. if I want my brain washed with conspiracy theories, I prefer a book.

you probably know more about our recent pop culture than I do 😁

Joni,

@ViolaB his accent is weird. is he really a finn?

ViolaB,
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@Joni

No he is from sweden.

That was the joke and he is somehow annoying.

Joni,

@ViolaB aaah.. did he mention how they treat finnish immigrants in Sweden? 😁

ViolaB,
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@Joni

I don't know?

I don't like him anymore. Haven't seen his stuff since a while now.

Joni,

@ViolaB well, like I said, we don't have an easy history with our neighbors 😁

ViolaB,
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@Joni outoa ihmiset (=weird people, how can I say that in finnis?

Joni,

@ViolaB "oudot ihmiset" tai "kummalliset ihmiset"

ViolaB,
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@Joni almost 😁 I hate that my progress is so tiny even I spend so much time and so much love while trying to learn finnish.

Joni,

@ViolaB don't be so hard on yourself, it's a fucking difficult language.

ViolaB,
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@Joni

And that's the reason why finnish folk is so quiet at the daily life, right?😁

Joni,

@ViolaB yup and that's why I prefer english whenever I can 🤭.

for writing poems finnish is just fantastic.

ViolaB,
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@Joni 🥺 This My goal it is exactly the level of finnish I want to reach.

Joni,

@ViolaB writing poems? I'm so glad you bumped in to a poet 😁

ViolaB,
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@Joni Nice. 🥺

I did write a lot stuff. As well also as a symptom of a manic episode so I am quite unsure what I did. I can't remember... I but In wrote stuff in german and english.

German is not so easy and nice to express feelings and so on... not enough space for puns...

Joni,

@ViolaB well, I don't know if I am able to teach you anything about writing poems, but I sure love poetry. if you want to write and show them to someone, I'll be happy to read them and correct misspellings.

ViolaB,
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@Joni I am pretty far away from that level of finnish yet. In english I am fine but as you maybe recordnize also just fluent not an expert.

Joni,

@ViolaB well, my english isn't perfect either. I have no difficulties to understand you so you're expert enough for me.

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