NigelFrobisher,

Jesus didn’t build “the Church” - Emperor Constantine did.

FlashMobOfOne,
@FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world avatar

I will care what Jesus Christ thinks when he comes down from the heavens and pays a few of my bills.

Sprawlie,

thinks when he comes down

He’s now 2 days late that fucker.

Tyfud,

They’re conflating Astronomy and Astrology again.

Red_October,

Now tell all the christian nutjobs that the Eclipse is Satan’s mark, symbolically cutting people off from God’s Light, and that anyone in the path of Totality will be forever unbaptized and is definitely going to hell, and anyone on the edges will still be forever stained with unforgivable sin and darkness and can only go to purgatory at best, never heaven.

Zehzin,
@Zehzin@lemmy.world avatar

This isn’t even consistent with the bible. One of the Psalms is literally about looking up at the moon and stars and being in awe at god’s creation.

Bakkoda,

And therein lies the problem: When they lower their eyes it’s to a world in which they see hate.

Stalinwolf, (edited )
@Stalinwolf@lemmy.ca avatar

Celestial phenomena and the deep and powerful spirit of nature are the closest things I have to religion. Not only are they absolutely fucking tangible, but our ancestors revered them for a good reason. As a species we’ve gone so far astray from respecting and revering the world we emerged from that we’ve completely lost ourselves to Abrahamic gods who focus on weird things like punishment, oppression, and masturbation.

We live on this beautiful, near-continuous organism. We were born from it and we will return to it. It creates life every day with or without our influence, and it will continue to do so long after we’re gone. It is, in all practicality, a living god before our very eyes, yet for whatever reason we largely dismiss it as background noise.

I say we get back to gathering around stones and partying our asses off beneath the moon. Let’s crack one open under the solstice sun. Lets celebrate good harvests and nature’s abundance before it’s gone, because that shit’s going, bud. Call it Mother Nature. Call it the Green Man. Call it the Great Spirit. Call it whatever you want. Attribute the name(s) of whatever god(s) or goddess(es) you vibe with. Make up your own if you want to. The pagans certainly have the right idea, but you’d probably be surprised at how much infighting there is even in their communities too. Believe me, I’ve dabbled.

Everyone needs to just chill the fuck out and enjoy a good equinox.

veroxii,

“my first girlfriend turned into the moon”

“That’s rough, buddy”

kautau,

“God MADE the world and you’re going to fucking APPRECIATE ITS BEAUTY!? Disgusting HEATHENS”

doingthestuff,

Observing “signs” in the skies is 100% Biblical but there are tons of whackjobs in every large group of people.

seahorse,
@seahorse@midwest.social avatar

Moonworship? At least the moon is real…

captain_aggravated,
@captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works avatar

Then there’s the implied definition that “looking at something for awhile” is worship.

My understanding of a solar eclipse: The moon is the second biggest thing to have ever cast a shadow on me. Neat.

seahorse,
@seahorse@midwest.social avatar

Biggest is OPs mom. /s

VindictiveJudge,
@VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world avatar

Fourth largest, possibly. Mercury and Venus are both larger than the Moon, and they do pass in front of the Sun from the perspective of Earth. Not that the shadow would be very noticeable.

captain_aggravated,
@captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works avatar

Neither Mercury or Venus cast an umbra on Earth. Also Venus hasn’t done a solar transit since 2012 and won’t for about a century so there’s a lot of humans alive today who will never see a Venus transit.

rtxn,

The primitive mind fears the unusual and hates what it can’t control.

Annoyed_Crabby,

Not the church jesus christ built? JC build church himself? 🤔

5714,

apparently because of his disappearing act…

Taiatari,

I mean he was a carpenter…

EvacuateSoul,

Live by the nail…

Klear,

That “live by the sword, die by the sword” line is the best foreshadowing in the history of literature.

bluGill,
bluGill avatar

People often are confused, but a close reading of the bible shows that Church is always used in the context of a group of believers and never refers to be building. (which shouldn't be a surprise - this first references to a christian church building date to the 2nd century)

RogueBanana,

I am not really an expert on this subject but I don’t think Jesus built any buildings.

Takumidesh,

Well, he was a carpenter.

bluGill,
bluGill avatar

Well he was a carpenter. It isn't clear what the word means though - such professions tend to not be mentioned much in historical documents that survive and so all we have is the word where meanings can change over the years. Worse, he was in a Hebrew country likely speaking Arabic, then that was translated to "baby greek" which is where most of our information comes from - this leaves plenty of room for meaning shift it terms. Most think carpenter was something like a cabinet maker or furniture maker - and in that part of the world we see dirt/stone buildings in archeology (this might be survivor bias - wood buildings if any are unlikely to have left evidence behind, but generally we wouldn't expect them to have used wood). Thus the odds are Jesus never built any buildings, but there is some small room for doubt.

Shawdow194,
Shawdow194 avatar

Dont quote me but isnt the impression that Joseph wasnt a carpenter, but instead a stone mason?

Like you said, much more likely with the material they used for building and just as modest of a position for a commoner of his stature

bluGill,
bluGill avatar

I've never heard that before. Given the language issues that isn't impossible, but everything I've heard suggest working with wood, but probably cabinets or furniture not houses. We do know that jobs involving working with wood existed then, but exactly what anyone was doing is really hard to pick out. I'm going to stick with cabinet maker as most likely but there isn't enough evidence to be confident in anything.

Lojcs,

I thought you can’t be a Saint in general

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