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To us a being that can create a universe is a god, not just another creature.

That’s my point - we’re just another creature. On a scale of bird to god, we might as well be a bird. It’s vain to assume that a universe-creator of all people would give a fuck about human achievements. Only other humans care.

I don’t follow your train of thought that the creator of a simulation wouldn’t know of the only advanced intelligence within their simulation.

I’m not saying that the creator couldn’t know, I’m saying they likely wouldn’t care. Of course I’m just guessing same as you, but life in general is probably just noise considering all that goes on in the universe without a trace of life as we define it. My bet is that we’re simply outside of the creator’s scope. She’s probably interested in other things like gravity and the ratio’s of elements as time progresses.

Also, you say that we’re the only advanced intelligence in the universe/simulation with way too much certainty. We’ve only been outside of our atmosphere for a little more than half a century, which is to say three things:

  1. “advanced” is relative, if not subjective.
  2. Give it time, we could find life in the next few millennia.
  3. Even if we never find life, Occam’s razor. Is it wise to assume that the universe was created for homo-sapiens, when it’s possible that life is simply rare and we aren’t as advanced as we think we are?

The vastness of the universe and the speed of light limitation is likely the invisible wall meant to keep us where we are.

This sounds a lot like the flat-earth ice wall idea. Most thought on simulation philosophy posits that our fixed rate of causation is due to the limits of the media that the universe “runs” on, and we see parallels in our own “simulations”. So there’s no right or wrong here but again, Occam’s razor.

I believe that my first paragraph addresses your last, but I do want to take the anthropological angle. When we thought the earth was flat, many civilizations assumed that theirs was the center. When it became clear that the earth was a globe, we assumed that the sun, planets, and stars orbited the earth, and that the earth was the center of the universe. When we learned that actually the earth orbits the sun, we still thought that the sun was the center of the universe which was just the solar system + the stars before we realized that the sun is just one star, and the sun itself had an orbit in in the galaxy, which we again falsy assumed was the whole universe.

We tend to see ourselves as the center of the universe because that’s our perspective, it’s natural and intuitive. That assumption has been wrong every step of the way so far though. So what makes you so sure that this time is so different? What makes you so sure that homosapiens, the apes living on one rock on the edge of some random, average galaxy, who only just escaped their planet’s orbit just now on a cosmic scale, are the focal point of the entire theoretically observable universe, which they’ve only just scratched the surface of being able to observe? The fact that they have a few million year evolutionary head start on their chimpanzee cousins? Or a few more million on their dolphin cousins? Or a couple billion on their rock cousins?

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