65dBnoise, (edited )
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On Sol 998, moved farther southwest about 30m, to RMC 47.3056, apparently back toward Jurabi Point.

The map shows its new estimated location along with the (guessed) path it took and a new prediction for its next drive (green dashed line), just for fans.

This localization is based on metadata from just one image.

EDIT: The path for last drive changed to 'estimate' and is being updated as more metadata become available.

65dBnoise,
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... but I don't think my crystal ball could have predicted the path of a drunken rover 🤣

BettinaKoza,
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@65dBnoise
Did Perseverance find a glass of Pan Galatic Gargle Blaster? 🍸🤪

65dBnoise,
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@BettinaKoza
It appears it does it habitually lately. Previous theories about neutrons hitting the microprocessors and/or RAM were not confirmed. 😜

65dBnoise,
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At the end, after sobering up, the rover followed my prediction 😀

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@65dBnoise

Downlinking of the post drive NavCams remain sluggish. I don't believe that we have a full set from the drives on sols 991, 993, 994, 997 and now 998.

65dBnoise, (edited )
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@PaulHammond51
Yes, most are still full of holes.

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@65dBnoise

Hopefully they'll catch up soon :)

65dBnoise,
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@PaulHammond51
Little Assistant gives me a number of about 9000 images that are still pending or something. It's going to take a while, if that's true.

EDIT: Now it says it's about 10000 remaining 😶

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@65dBnoise the relay satellites and DSN are gonna be busy for a while by the sounds of it...

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@65dBnoise @PaulHammond51 Wow that's quite the backlog.
I wonder if the missing NAV images are just missing for us or for the team as well, it seems hard to do planning with this...

Judging by the missing Ingenuity images (https://fosstodon.org/@stim3on/111524385227312421)
and the incomplete NAV image (https://mastodon.social/@65dBnoise/111388352840781365)
I'm not sure anymore if we are actually seeing the images once they are available or if they are delayed by some means (intentional or not)

65dBnoise,
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@stim3on @PaulHammond51
That's a number calculated from image reports, which are updated with a new_count as soon as new images become available in the pipeline. Usually there are small differences, but now those seem to be huge.

https://mars.nasa.gov/rss/api/?feed=raw_images&category=mars2020,ingenuity&feedtype=json&ver=1.2&latest=true

65dBnoise,
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@stim3on @PaulHammond51
That RTE image from flight 66 was just released into the image pipeline 🤔

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stim3on,
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@65dBnoise @PaulHammond51 Thank you. Very interesting and strange revelation.
Can you please check the date_recieved_utc timestamp to see if that sheds some more light on the situation?

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@65dBnoise @PaulHammond51
had to see for myself, the timestamp is "2023-12-12T01:06:56Z", so earlier today...

This image is version 01, so it's not a redownlinked version.

At the same time we know this image was available before...

Either they have a separate link to the rover where they sometimes get special images that are not archived, or the date_received timestamp is only updated when it is released to the public feed and not representative of actual downlink. `

Any ideas?

PaulHammond51,
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@stim3on @65dBnoise

I know the rover can downlink data directly to Earth, but AFAIK it's usually done during investigations for issues, I guess in those cases any images downlinked, may not go through the normal pipeline?

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@stim3on @PaulHammond51
Not certain, but it seems that image metadata is generated somewhere between AMPCS and the "AWS Cloud" block in this diagram. Which means date/time stamps may not be coming from Mars in the form we see them.

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@65dBnoise @PaulHammond51 Could this be the reason why we are missing some images from the rover and Ingenuity? Seems like a bug with the API...
https://github.com/MarsRaw/mars-raw-utils/issues/59

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@stim3on @PaulHammond51
I don't use the MRU utilities to fetch images, and haven't noticed a problem with the API so far. What I've noticed is that huge list of sols in the image reports which forces my code to query the database over and over to get any single new image appearing on a sol in the list. That long list being updated frequently makes the process inefficient.

Maybe I should have a look in Kevin's code for fetching images, to see if he does things differently.

stim3on,
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@65dBnoise @PaulHammond51 I was just thinking since you use the same API, a but that affects MRU may also affect your code.

There seems to be an issue with the sample_type "full" vs "Full" Can you test that behaviour with your code if it applies?

65dBnoise,
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@stim3on @PaulHammond51
Yes, I read the github issue, but I'm not sure the issue is with "full" vs "Full" or with "sample_type::full" vs "sample_type:full" <- single ':'. Normally upper/lower case shouldn't matter.

My fetches appear to download both SUPERCAM and NAVCAM / MCZ images without problems. I use sample_type::full, and haven't noticed an issue.

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