Use WhatsApp without a smartphone?

ccx, 2 months ago

It’s been a year or two, but last time I tried it their app worked fine on x86 Android in qemu. Not the most efficient way to run it, but at least it’s isolated from the rest of the system.

eco_game, 2 months ago

I believe WhatsApp needs the mobile app to connect to WhatsApp’s servers at least once every two weeks.

I think your best bet would be getting the cheapest phone you can find that will run a recent WhatsApp version, and then just leaving that at home connected to the internet. You could then use any WhatsApp web client (the website, some app, a matrix bridge, …) to actually use WhatsApp on the go.

u_tamtam, 2 months ago

You can always give a shot at using a third party client (possibly acting as bridge for other/better protocols, like e.g. slidge.im>xmpp or the buggy matrix equivalent), but you need to keep in mind that they will all require you to authenticate (and remain authenticated) using a smartphone, and that usage of 3rd party clients is forbidden from WA’s terms and conditions (which may lead to your account being blocked/deleted).

56_, 2 months ago

I used waydroid for whatsapp, though any android emulator will probably work. To create the account, there was an option to verify a phone number by sending a text message (to a dumb phone with a burner sim card in my case). I use whatsapp web to read and send messages, and only have to open waydroid every few months to sign-in again.

pre, 2 months ago

@robin

Whatssapp is designed as a surveillance app, it's primary purpose is to collect data from your phone for Facebook to analyze, so they make it basically impossible to use unless it's installed on your phone.

ccx, 2 months ago

Original WhatsApp was XMPP with phone number for your username. Pretty much what quicksy.im does now.

WhatsApp today is completely different beast.

beeng, 2 months ago

But Facebook bought WhatsApp in like 2015 was it?

So it wasn’t designed with Facebook datascraping in mind.

pre, 2 months ago

@beeng I wonder what proportion of the original code is still there. Not much I shouldn't think. The original app didn't ask for android permissions the way the modern one does, if only coz Android changed the way permissions work since then.

@robin

jaagruk, 2 months ago

Waydroid + Matrix bridge

ICastFist, 2 months ago

but in the past you needed to log in to your phone at least once a month for the web session to keep working. Is it that still the case?

Yes, unfortunately. From my limited experience trying to get it off a smartphone, leaving the number on a dumb phone and trying to activate on a sim-less smartphone, it simply won’t work if doesn’t detect a mobile number in its host Android

It doesn’t use servers to keep messages, so when you first access from outside the “original device”, it downloads the last few received messages of every conversation still in your phone, but rarely everything.

And009, 2 months ago

Web whatsapp works with my phone turned off. But can’t login without the app either…

Mikufan, 2 months ago

Just ditch it. Best thing to do.

Waaaaay less annoying shit. If someone wants someone from you they can call, or send an email or use Signal (wich should work on Linux phone)

HeartyBeast, 2 months ago

Or send, you know - a text message

And009, 2 months ago

Just ditch your country, way less annoying shit. Live in a free island, if someone wants something from you, they can take a boat or skydive from an airplane

Templa, 2 months ago

This is a very good example of a reply that doesn’t help at all. Sorry.

You aren’t aware of eveyones contexts so assuming everyone can simply ditch communication apps is very narrow minded. Many people have family members that aren’t well versed in tech and in many situations calling isn’t an option. My 70 years old mom for example would probably find easier to write me a letter and send it through mail than to learn how to use a new app (she can’t call since we live in different countries). Whenever they even change the app layout is a pain.

I deeply hate Whatsapp with all my might but there are sacrifices that need to be done for people you care about.

Max_P, 2 months ago

There’s always Waydroid. Might need some tweaks to make it believe it has a real phone number attached to it, but it should work.