ecnkmaxo,

Yay more AIshit images to plague the internet

Sheeple,
@Sheeple@lemmy.world avatar

I can’t wait for this fad to die

TimeSquirrel,
TimeSquirrel avatar

You might be waiting a long time. We aren't going back and this is one of those things that are not going back into the box. So now we must prepare for it and learn to live with it as the best course of action and make sure it's not used to oppress us.

Usernameblankface,
@Usernameblankface@lemmy.world avatar

Agreed. It is similar to waiting for Photoshop to die. It’s not going away.

Touching_Grass, (edited )

People talk like its a plague. Media have distorted this topic and people are running with it

SCB,

Lmao I’m old enough to remember “the internet is just a fad”

ubermeisters,

Because all the boomer clipart it’s replacing was so endearing…

Skipcast,

Now we get ai generated boomer art instead, and at a faster pace

ubermeisters,

The clouds don’t have ears

lurch,

There’s a fair chance we’ll see (or actually don’t see) a lot more offline use. AI apps are coming to desktop PCs and phones and it means in the long run people don’t have to get some entertaining stuff from the web any more. Like if you want to a cool pic of a dragon for a wallpaper, you can just ask the AI app on your PC and it will make a bunch to choose from.

atocci,
atocci avatar

What's out there that actually works offline? Stable Diffusion is the only one I've heard about, everyone else is more interested in exclusively selling AI as a service.

barsoap,

Llama etc, reduced ChatGPT models. Never tried them but they’re out there. There’s also plenty of support stuff that may or may not be interesting, e.g. turning images into depth maps in case you don’t have enough angles for actual photogrammetry. controlnet-aux for comfyui has a good selection of that analysis stuff.

Gabu,

Does it actually run any faster though? For instance, if I manually spun a model with the diffusers library and ran it locally on dml, would there be any difference?

Edit: Assuming we’re normalizing the output to something reasonable, e.g. a recognizable picture of a dog.

LifeInOregon,

And the resulting faces still all have lazy eyes, asymmetric features, and significantly uncanny issues.

MostlyHarmless,

Humans have asymmetric features. No one is symmetrical

LifeInOregon,

These features are abnormally asymmetric to the point of being off-putting. General symmetry of features is a significant part of what attracts people one to another, and why facial droops from things like Bells Palsy or strokes can often be psychologically difficult for the patient who experiences them.

General symmetry, not exact symmetry.

Apothecary,

Anecdote: I think Denzel Washington is supposed to have one of the most symmetrical faces.

Deceptichum,
Deceptichum avatar

You can easily get incredibly canny stuff.

DoucheBagMcSwag,

This isn’t free BTW folks

Sixner,

I haven’t messed with any AI imaging stuff yet. And free recommendations to just have some fun?

Tire,

Bing and Open AI still and free stuff. Bing’s is actually really good.

lloram239,

Bing Image Creator if you just want to create some images quick (free, Microsoft account required). It’s using DALLE3 behind the scenes, so it’s pretty much state-of-the-art, but rather limited in terms of features otherwise and rather heavy on the censorship.

If you wanna generate something local on your PC with more flexibility, Automatic1111 along with one of the models from CivitAI, needs a reasonably modern graphics card and enough VRAM (8GB+) to be enjoyable and installation can be a bit fiddly (check Youtube & Co. for tutorials). But once past that you can create some pretty wild stuff.

Zoboomafoo,
@Zoboomafoo@lemmy.world avatar

That’s impressive

mriormro,
@mriormro@lemmy.world avatar

Great, even more online noise that I can look forward to.

ubermeisters, (edited )

Seems like a bit of a stretch to call 4 seconds per frame, on a 3060, “realtime” / “as fast as you can type”.

simple,

Well, it is technically as fast as you can type if you’re running a better GPU. The 3060 is pretty mid-tier at this point.

TheGrandNagus, (edited )

Low end card.

I’ll get crucified for saying that because people will interpret that as an attack on their PC or something daft like that. It’s not.

It’s Ampere, a GPU architecture from 3.5 years ago. And even then, here’s what the desktop stack was like:

  1. 3090 Ti (GA102)
  2. 3090 (GA102)
  3. 3080 Ti (GA102)
  4. 3080 12GB (GA102)
  5. 3080 (GA102)
  6. 3070 Ti (GA102/GA104)
  7. 3070 (GA104)
  8. 3060 Ti (GA104/GA103)
  9. 3060 (GA106/GA104)
  10. 3050 (GA106/GA107)

It was almost at the bottom of Nvidia’s stack 3 years ago. It was a low end card then (because, you know, it was at the bottom end of what they were offering). It’s an even more low end card now.

People are always fooled by Nvidia’s marketing and thinking they’re getting a mid range card when in reality Nvidia’s giving people the scraps and pretending they’re giving you a great deal. People need to demand more from these companies.

Nvidia takes a low end card, slaps a $400 price tag on it, calls it mid range, and people lap it up every time.

simple,

I know it’s low-end when compared to the newer generations but if we call a 3060 low-end then what do we call people with older GPUs like a 1070?

TheGrandNagus,

Should we not compare the 3060 against its own generation/the current one? To me that makes more sense than including the 1000 series or 900 series or something. How far would we go back? Are all cards sold now high end because they’re faster than a GTX 960? Earlier?

Personally my cut off was cards still on sale either right now or very recently, say within the past year.

Blackmist,

The pricing makes it a mid range card, because the budget end is just gone these days.

TheGrandNagus,

Nvidia conning people into paying what used to be mid range/high end pricing for a low end card does not make it a low end card.

The 3060 was always a low end card. Because it was on the low end of the product stack, both for Nvidia and against AMD.

barsoap, (edited )

I’d guess that the ‘realtime’ is a quote from StabilityAI and of course they’re running that stuff on an A100. A couple of seconds is still interactive rate as generally speaking you want to think about the changes you’re making to your conditioning.

Haven’t tried yet but if individual steps of XL Turbo take ballpark as much time as LCM steps then… well, it’s four to eight times faster. As quality generally isn’t production-ready we’re generally speaking about rough prompt prototyping, testing out an animation pipeline, such stuff, but that has the caveat that increasing step size often leads to markedly different results (complete change of composition, not just details) so the information you gain from those preview-quality images is limited.

Oh, “production ready quality”: image quality being roughly en par with 4-step LCM means that it’s nowhere near production grade. For the final render you still want to give the model more steps. OTOH I’ve found that some LCM-based merges do in 30 steps what other models need 80 steps for so improvements are always welcome. But I’m also worried about these distilled models being less flexible, pruning only slightly trodden paths that you actually might want the model to take.

EDIT: Addendum: I’m not seeing anything about using this stuff as a Lora. The nice thing about LCM is that you can take any model you have on your disk and turn it pretty much instantly into a model that can generate fast previews. Also, VAE decoding already can be slower than generation with LCM, so, yeah. I guess having something in between the full VAE and TAESD would be nice, TAESD is fast but is quite limited both when it comes to details, so much that you might not even be able to see what kind of texture SD generated. Oh and it also tends to get colours wrong, at least in my experience it tends to be oversaturated.

Paradox,
@Paradox@lemdro.id avatar

The author can’t type very quickly

ubermeisters, (edited )

A rapid dark-tan mammalian with a bushy tail, propels itself upward off the ground, to an elevation above (or greater) than that of the canine resting below, whom has a disposition contrary to productivity.

domi,
@domi@lemmy.secnd.me avatar

I tried it on a 6900 XT recently and generation time was well under half a second.

Results are not as good as with SDXL but for the time it needs it’s very impressive.

neurogenesis,

I’m on a 3060 and with 4x upscaling it takes about a second and a half.

Stalinwolf,
@Stalinwolf@lemmy.ca avatar

I’ve tried to install this multiple times but always manage to fuck it up somehow. I think the guides I’m following are outdated or pointing me to one or more incompatible files.

L_Acacia,

Do you use comfyui ?

barsoap, (edited )

Tough luck running any code published by people who put out models, it’s research-grade software in every sense of the word. “Works on my machine” and “the source is the configuration file” kind of thing.

Get yourself comfyui, they’re always very fast when it comes to supporting new stuff and the thing is generally faster and easier on VRAM than A1111. Prerequisite is a torch (the python package) enabled with CUDA (nvidia) or rocm (AMD) or whatever Intel uses. Fair warning: Getting rocm to run on not officially supported cards is an adventure in itself, I’m still on torch-1.13.1+rocm5.2 newer builds just won’t work as the GPU I’m telling rocm I have so that it runs in the first place supports instructions that my actual GPU doesn’t, and they started using them.

You999,

This is great news for people who make animations with deforum as the speed increase should make Rakile’s deforumation GUI much more usable for live composition and framing.

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