This is kind of a nothingburger. It requires an instruction that first launched on AMD Phenom and Intel’s Nehalem architecture (1st gen i5/i7). I would think the vast majority of people running 11 on unsupported CPUs would be running something newer than that.
Guess I’m one of the three. I did the tpm bypass on an old computer I built way back. Mostly just for fun, I don’t actually use it for anything anymore.
That said, looks like the CPU is new enough (i7 950) this change won’t affect it.
If the CPU does not support POPCNT, Windows 11 version 24H2 will not boot. The instruction requires a processors that supports SSE4.2 or SSE4a.
[…] Intel launched support for SSE4.2 in Intel Nehalem core processors in late 2008. AMD added support for the instructions in late 2011. Older processors continued to be sold for some time.
This is also going to affect Linux distros, many are moving to x86-64-v2 or even v3. That comes with the same requirements this Win11 build is going to enforce.
There's plenty of life left in some of the later hardware not on the official Win11 support list, but hardware old enough to be excluded by this build is really overdue for retirement and/or being considered retrocomputing.
That makes sense, but remember that security patches are backported to old kernels for quite a long time. Therefore, using an LTS release of Linux should extend a computer’s life longer than Windows.
What in the world are yall running machines this old for? Literally a $50 modern computer would be an improvement, and would likely more than quarter the energy requirement.
Just because you can still run 20 year old hardware, doesn’t mean you should.
Many distro seem to go with „one package v3/v2, one for earlier pc“ and make package manager install correct one. So no „cant use on old hardware“ impact.
Also linux runs on 30+ year old hardware, not gonna change that now.
Show me file compatibility that doesn’t wack your files, so you can trust you’re seeing what the author intended.
Show me Publisher, any kind of CAD.
Which shell are you using?
I can go on for days why the “switch to Linux” mantra is simplistic and naive, at best.
Linux has its place, but I’m not dealing with supporting users with it as a desktop OS. I don’t even use it myself (other than to tinker), because I don’t have time to play fuck-fuck with borked files from one system to another. My “get work done” machines run Windows, especially because I work with other people, and I need to ensure any documents I send to them appear as intended.
There’s a reason Windows is the defacto standard, and it’s the standardized UI (and not by accident, if you read the MS research from the 80’s). Add to that support for systems management since the early 90’s, with SMS, Exchange/DC (a directory service) that all works natively with the OS since Win2k.
Linux as the base for a hypervisor? Fantastic. As a host for docker? Great! As a base OS for lightweight, dedicated-purpose devices (RPi, consumer routers, hell, commercial routers! IoT)? Perfect!
To be fair, your arguments basically boil down to “show me equivalent Linux support for Microsoft products”
You could make all the same arguments and conclude Macs are less suitable for doing work than windows, yet there are tons of professionals using MacBooks who get by just fine. If you don’t need to be fully ingrained in the Microsoft ecosystem you don’t NEED to be on windows.
This barely affects anyone apparently, so feel free to upgrade. Windows 11 isn’t bad at all. I’m enjoying it whenever I have to use it. (I basically boot Steam and play games and reboot to Linux, so that’s the extent of it.)
Windows 11 adds nothing good to 10, and introduces a bunch of highly anti-consumer features that are difficult if not impossible to disable. There’s absolutely no good reason to “upgrade” to 11 if you already have 10.
To reach their own. I don’t give a hoot about the features in Windows, as long as it runs my games. And I like the look of Windows 11 more than I do 10. So that’s good enough for me. It doesn’t affect me more than the aesthetics. To me it’s an upgrade.
Meh, OS’s don’t die at EOL. There are thousands, if not millions, of machines running Win2k that simply can’t be upgraded because they run industry systems.
And before anyone cries about security - if you’re relying on the OS for your security you’re ignoring everything else (the other layers) that are required… You’re doing it wrong.
There are thousands (tens of thousands?) of Win2k machines that can’t be upgraded because they drive industry systems. Hell, there’s Win95 machines doing the same. Their security is ensured by incorporating layers of control… As should be done with any system, commensurate with it’s risk and criticality.
Windows 11 isn’t bad. But it’s a sidegrade from 10. For example, I have an ultrawide HDR display and 11 is a must for HDR. But the damn start bar can’t move to the left anymore which is super annoying on an ultrawide.
I haven’t tried it yet so I can’t vouch for it but I’ve read good things about a software called Explorer Patcher that can fix a lot of the W11 garbage.
Explorer Patcher just straight gives you the Windows 10 UI but it’s had a lot of stability issues especially as new builds of Windows roll out.
There are some other alternatives like Open Shell which is free and can give more of an XP, Vista, or Win7 style start menu. Then there’s paid options which are a little more polished like StartAllBack and Start11.
On the other hand if the only thing that bothers you is the context menu changes there are a couple of things you can do. You can edit a registry key to just get the old context menu. Or you can use Context Menu for Windows 11 to add your own context menu entries for applications where the developers won’t include the “new” method to register their shell extensions. (It’s been around since Windows 7 IIRC, but has no advantages over the old method until 11.)
For me Windows 11 gets me about 30 minutes to an hour better battery life than 10. That doesn’t sound like much, but going from 2 to almost 3 is pretty big improvement.
Now that devs finally updated their programs to show up in the new right click menu it’s not obnoxious anymore, and unlike a bloated 10 install doesn’t take 10 years to open.
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