BynarsAreOk,

This is starting to align again with all the people who predict Biden will still win. Once the Palestinian cause becomes politicized and turns into the same blue vs red team, once the genocide becomes a question of whether or not you’re handing it to Trumpists, it is over.

The neoliberals were definitely correct in pushing the whole Ukraine war as a matter of “western values” and if the Gaza genocide becomes “we can’t allow the Axis of Evil/Trump allies to dictate terms” shit then libs will support Biden even harder.

The only reason the Israel propaganda is less effective is the generational issue(gen z doesn’t care about Ukraine) and maybe Israel/Zionism went too hard and too fast on the whole “right to defend itself” narrative and it is hard to back off from that.

WhatDoYouMeanPodcast,
@WhatDoYouMeanPodcast@hexbear.net avatar

I can’t imagine a spin that Isntreal could have spun to make people like it when you kill a fuckload of people for no reason. Cause they sure pushed a hostages angle but then they killed hostages themselves. They pushed the human shield thing and nobody believed in tunnels under hospitals and then they used civilians as shields themselves. At some level it can’t just be narrative and the simple fact is that genocide is cringe. That’s why it’s not even left right - it’s not even left right as lefties know it. Nobody wants to give these freaks a goddamn dollar, some of us want to give them… a piece of our mind at the polls. I’d be shocked if you could spin a genocide in 4k as inevitable and just but a question whether Biden or trump do it. When it happened at the border people fucking hated Biden for it

somename,

We do not in fact have to hand it to Alex Jones.

Like, he’s the kind of guy who’s actually just pushing this because of a slightly different strain of antisemitic brainworms. This isn’t an outflank from the ‘left’.

Adkml,

Even acknowledging all that he’s still objectively better on the topic than Biden.

Fuck Alex Jones, but fuck him slightly less than the DNC ghouls pretending to be morally superior to him while continuing the genocide.

OsrsNeedsF2P,

DNC ghouls pretending to be morally superior

This is why I promised myself to never, ever vote for the Dems after 2016. 3rd party or bust

Leon_Grotsky,

Klandace Owens got fired from Daily Wire for reporting Gaza death figures as well.

I predict we’re gonna see alot of the softer leftist-politics-as-personal-branding types start to waffle and water down their rhetoric to the point of uselessness to avoid being associated with these guys.

PKMKII,
@PKMKII@hexbear.net avatar

Right wing grifters learned from Trump to occasionally attack from the left, especially on the western war machine.

Hohsia,

Trump stole the media being the enemy of the people from Lenin

God I fucking hate it here

driving_crooner,
@driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br avatar

Didn’t the Nazis also used the same rhetoric?

combat_brandonism,

who do you think they stole it from?

driving_crooner,
@driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br avatar

The nazis stole it from Lenin?

combat_brandonism,
driving_crooner,
@driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br avatar

Psychiatrist: Milenin it’s not real, it can’t hurt you.

Milenin: lenin-da

driving_crooner,
@driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br avatar

Tucker Carlson also play that trick some times.

emizeko,
@emizeko@hexbear.net avatar

imaginging a conversation between 2020 me and 2024 me on Bernie Sanders

there would be a lot of yelling

NoIWontPickaName,

Why?

NoIWontPickaName,

Why?

Infamousblt,
@Infamousblt@hexbear.net avatar

Unfortunately he’s probably doing it because he’s actually anti-semitic, which will be ammo in lib’s guns pointed at us, because “wow you stupid tankies agree with ALEX JONES? That’s just MORE PROOF in horseshoe theory! You tankies are just like the right!”

No you dumbass libs we don’t agree with Alex Jones. Yes, we want a ceasefire and an end to the genocide, but for entirely different reasons. Context matters. Well, to us anyway. Context doesn’t matter to libs, they are incapable of understanding context.

davel,
@davel@hexbear.net avatar

Unfortunately he’s probably doing it because he’s actually anti-semitic

Who knows what propagandists actually believe. They’re actors playing a characters to influence public opinion and make money.

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