@serapath that's an interesting one as torrents still technically work, and the infustrcurtue is still online, though riddled with ads and SPAM. So while technically this is still functioning, it is socially degraded and pushed into the shadow by the #dotcons like Netflix and Amazon Prime etc.
"* #p2p was the poster child of the era of the #openweb it was caught in the quicksand of legal issues, the shadow that was left was eclipsed by "free to use" #dotcons Now finds it hard to come back due to mobile devices not having an IP address, thus most people not actually able to use p2p reliably."
An example of this, my torrent client is regularly blocked by my mobile internet provider - I live on a boat, and yes I do get round this but most people would stumble when this happens.
@witchescauldron hm, you should try dat-ecosystem projects, especially keet.
it works on mobile and it doesnt require servers or backends, it uses the p2p networo to punch their way out of most network situatiins to establish direct p2p connections and it also uses the p2p network to blind relay in situations where the network is so locked down that holepunching get too hard, but thats a rare scenario anyway.
dat is basicallly torrents with version control integrated for any type of data
It's the NGO crew feeding on foundation money, https://opencollective.com/dat phwww. Is any of this tech any use at all... likely not, but hard to say.
@serapath what are you guys working on for a socially useful project https://playproject.io/#ourContributors in the era of #climatchaos we need stuff that works/people use/works circal. just tech is not anything without social use, outreaching like you are doing with me is a conversation... can you hear what I am saying is real social outcome leading to use :)
@serapath can I ask who is funding this new outreach of #dat tech dev, this usually can be used to find out if the is hope or fail of #NGO tech projects.
You don’t need a replicated data type, partial/universal proofs or not, in order to have a topologically decentralised peer to peer network. You just need people to own and control their own nodes on the network; which can be done on the open web.
OK so it clearly comes from the #web03 mess, I was smelling this, good to have a link, thanks @aral
Like most blockchain mess, they have stepped away... now the question is the tech they have built useful or useless, can it be run as unbranded community projects? Rather than branded #NGO tech fail. Anyone have information on this, please?
@witchescauldron@serapath When I was last playing with it, hypercore was (is?) based on a directed acyclic graph and worked well. It was lacking multi-writer support (without CRDT last I saw) but I believe that was finally addressed in time. The core tech, at least back then, was a genuine attempt to create a replicated datatype and tools based on it without any bloat (or a business model beyond grants). You could likely build on that foundation.
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