"U.S. bullying ends now!" - Putin issues stunning military plan | Redacted w Clayton Morris

  • Putin offering arms to other countries. Russian version of NATO.
  • ReSex offering sex to recovering Ukrainian veterans thanks to US taxpayer money.
  • Disinformation operation by Human Rights Watch to justify an invasion of Haiti.
  • Winter problems are coming for Europe.
CannotSleep420,

Garbage source.

Veritas, (edited )

Attacking the source is just lazy. Learn how to disagree.

CannotSleep420,

If someone linked you a 1.75 hour long video from Radio Free Asia/Europe, Voice of America, or Ukraine Pravda, would you sit through the whole thing just to make a counter argument, or would you (correctly) point out that they are garbage sources that should be disregarded?

Veritas,

You could say the same about any other news source you dislike. You are just comparing it with news sources you already know get funded by the West without any basis.

bazookabill,

What a trash vid, made me laugh hard.

Ignacio,
Ignacio avatar

U.S. bullying ends now!

So... when does Russia bullying end then? Or does that not exist?

palordrolap,

It is impossible for the good guys to bully anyone. Anything done by the good guys is, by definition, good, and so cannot be bullying, which is bad.

BenderOver,

What infuriates me the most is my tax payer money paying for Ukrainians to have sex. Why can’t that money help me have sex? Absolutely crossing the line here.

FaceDeer,
FaceDeer avatar

You could volunteer to go fight for Ukraine, after which you get the sex. Win/win.

Shdwdrgn,

Ignore the shill account. It was only created 8 hours ago with this single post. Most likely will be seen again soon claiming mock outrage about fake news in some other country. This is just what Veritas and the other Russian trolls do to stroke daddy Puddin’s ego.

FaceDeer,
FaceDeer avatar

I interpreted this particular comment as a joke. I still think it is, it's just taking an opportunity to say "I'd like the government to hire hookers for me."

BenderOver,

That dude talking about me? Cause it is a joke..cause the post as a whole is just ridiculous lol

ElHexo,

Y’all got a transcript or something, good lord

FaceDeer,
FaceDeer avatar

Putin offering arms to other countries. Russian version of NATO.

Russia tried that, the Collective Security Treaty Organization. Everyone's quitting.

Veritas,

Apparently they don’t learn.

SpaceCadet, (edited )
@SpaceCadet@sopuli.xyz avatar

So how many sockpuppet/bot accounts do you have? Every comment you post immediately gets a +4. There’s absolutely no way that less than 1 minute after you post a comment on a Lemmy post that’s already downvoted to shit immediately gets 4 genuine upvotes unless you’re manipulating it.

Edit: and now the fake insta-upvotes on his comments disappeared, someone’s getting rid of the evidence lol

FaceDeer,
FaceDeer avatar

On kbin instances you can see the identities of everyone who's upvoted and downvoted a post, I'm looking forward to there being better tools for automatically identifying clusters of sockpuppets and bots like this.

SpaceCadet,
@SpaceCadet@sopuli.xyz avatar

Yeah but kbin still has huge issues with properly replicating posts, comments and votes from Lemmy instances. It often doesn’t match up with what I see on Lemmy itself.

Veritas,
yata,

That only works against properly presented arguments, which nothing in your video is. When your source is a mess of gish galloping propaganda, then it is indeed the only sound choice to criticise the source.

Pratai,

Holy shit I’ve never seen a bigger example of Russian propaganda before. THIS is where it all comes from! Scroll through the comments on this and it’s tons of people saying the most insane bullshit about Zelenskyy.

yata,

OP’s posting history consists entirely of spamming such Putin-propaganda and similarly manufactured stories all over lemmy.

sndmn,

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  • Veritas, (edited )

    name-calling. Those attacks are just lazy. Learn how to disagree.

    Lutefisky,

    And your post is lazy at analysis and facts. As the old programmer saying goes: garbage in = garbage out.

    Pratai,

    Dude loves his Russian propaganda.

    SpaceCadet,
    @SpaceCadet@sopuli.xyz avatar

    lol vatnik garbage

    Veritas, (edited )

    ad hominem. Attacking the source is just lazy. Learn how to disagree.

    SpaceCadet,
    @SpaceCadet@sopuli.xyz avatar

    Why, you a vatnik or something?

    SpaceCadet,
    @SpaceCadet@sopuli.xyz avatar

    Learn how to disagree.

    I’m not going to lend idiots like Clayon Morris any credibility by arguing their position in good faith when they didn’t arrive at their position in good faith in the first place.

    Knowing the source is enough to discredit and discard this video. They’re vatniks. They produce garbage. Garbage belongs in the garbage bin. The end.

    Veritas, (edited )

    I’ve read Seymour Hersh’s Pulitzer Prize-winning report “How America Took Out The Nord Stream Pipeline”. I stopped reading that “vatnik soup” when it dismissed them for reporting on the US blowing up the Nord Stream. The US government’s weak attempt at misdirection with the Chinese weather balloon only reinforces Hersh’s report. Anyone who doesn’t take Hersh’s report seriously is not credible. Moreover, the fact that Clayton Morris reported it while the rest of the media focused on the balloon only makes me think he’s more credible than most of the media.

    Pratai,

    Whatever you say, Ivan.

    SpaceCadet,
    @SpaceCadet@sopuli.xyz avatar

    You are not credible.

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